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Re: talking Linux?

David I. McAnally <kf7fly@...>
 

Everything can be managed from a ssh terminal program after initial install
of Linux. I manage several remote nodes and only had to have someone
locally power reboot a couple of them once, probably due to a UPS power
glitch. All updates and a few soft reboots have been performed remotely via
ssh login.

Try out the PUTTY SSH windows client software. It is less Window GUI and
more terminal command line.

Multiple login terminal sessions are fine.

Regards,
David McAnally (KF7FLY)

-----Original Message-----
From: Butch Bussen [mailto:butchb@shellworld.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 12:56 PM
To: irlp@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [irlp] talking Linux?


Thanks for taking the time to read this. I'll try and keep it as
brief as possible. I am totally blind and use special software to
make my computers talk. I just received my board and cd yesterday.
I'm not totally unfamiliar with Linux, I've used pine, linx, and
ftp on a shell account for years. I know there is some work being
done with a "talking Linux", but most of what I've seen uses
Slackware. I know I'll need some sighted help getting things up
and running, but I want to do as much as I can myself and learn as
I go.

I presently have a talking desktop computer running win98 and special
"screen reading" software. I use a terminal program on this
system to access my shell account and it works quite well. Unless
I can find some sort of bootable talking Linux, I'll need help
getting the first installation done. After this, how much can I do
from a terminal program on my main computer? Can I install the
IRLP software remotely? I notice the documentation talks about
switching terminals with alt-f1. Can I accomplish the same thing
remotely by logging in twice?

I've tried using WINSCP on a friend's computer, and it doesn't
work well with my talking program. I often use FTP to move files
back and forth. Is this available on the IRLP distribution, and
if so, what do I have to do to implement this?

Any help and comments are appreciated. Please reply off list to
keep clutter down.

Thanks and 73s.

Butch Bussen

WA0VJR


Re: talking Linux?

k9dc <gingrich2@...>
 

--- In irlp@yahoogroups.com, Butch Bussen <butchb@s...> wrote:
Thanks for taking the time to read this. I'll try and keep it as
brief as possible. I am totally blind and use special software to
make my computers talk. I just received my board and cd yesterday.
I'm not totally unfamiliar with Linux, I've used pine, linx, and
ftp on a shell account for years. I know there is some work being
done with a "talking Linux", but most of what I've seen uses
Slackware. I know I'll need some sighted help getting things up
and running, but I want to do as much as I can myself and learn as
I go.

I presently have a talking desktop computer running win98 and special
"screen reading" software. I use a terminal program on this
system to access my shell account and it works quite well. Unless
I can find some sort of bootable talking Linux, I'll need help
getting the first installation done. After this, how much can I do
from a terminal program on my main computer?
You should be able to do nearly everything from a remote session,
including installation of the IRLP software. The only thing your
screen reader might have a problem with is setting the audio levels
with aumix. Aumix is text based, but it uses the arrow keys to move up
and down the various channels of the sound card and left and right to
set the level.

I notice the documentation talks about
switching terminals with alt-f1. Can I accomplish the same thing
remotely by logging in twice?
Yes you can telnet or SSH into the Linux shell as many times as you
want. Short of a hardware failure, Linux can be completely
administered remotely. In fact many of us do not even have a monitor
or keyboard on the computer.

I've tried using WINSCP on a friend's computer, and it doesn't
work well with my talking program. I often use FTP to move files
back and forth. Is this available on the IRLP distribution, and
if so, what do I have to do to implement this?
Command line FTP comes with Linux, but the FTP service is disabled on
a normal installation. However you can always use the command line
utility scp or "secure copy" to move files around. SCP uses ssh as the
transport mechanism and is available if you have sshd running.

While IRLP was not particularly designed for a blind user, since there
is no GUI and is totally command line driven, you should have a good
chance at a succesful installation. I would imagine that soldering
connectors on cables for the radio interface would cause more
difficulty than installing the software.

-Dave K9DC


talking Linux?

Butch Bussen
 

Thanks for taking the time to read this. I'll try and keep it as
brief as possible. I am totally blind and use special software to
make my computers talk. I just received my board and cd yesterday.
I'm not totally unfamiliar with Linux, I've used pine, linx, and
ftp on a shell account for years. I know there is some work being
done with a "talking Linux", but most of what I've seen uses
Slackware. I know I'll need some sighted help getting things up
and running, but I want to do as much as I can myself and learn as
I go.

I presently have a talking desktop computer running win98 and special
"screen reading" software. I use a terminal program on this
system to access my shell account and it works quite well. Unless
I can find some sort of bootable talking Linux, I'll need help
getting the first installation done. After this, how much can I do
from a terminal program on my main computer? Can I install the
IRLP software remotely? I notice the documentation talks about
switching terminals with alt-f1. Can I accomplish the same thing
remotely by logging in twice?

I've tried using WINSCP on a friend's computer, and it doesn't
work well with my talking program. I often use FTP to move files
back and forth. Is this available on the IRLP distribution, and
if so, what do I have to do to implement this?

Any help and comments are appreciated. Please reply off list to
keep clutter down.

Thanks and 73s.

Butch Bussen

WA0VJR


Re: Actiontec DSL Modem/Router Trouble

Tony Langdon, VK3JED <vk3jed@...>
 

At 11:35 PM 8/09/2004, you wrote:

I had a similar problem with my Actiontec and Quest, and it amazingly
disappeared after I called Quest and asked them if they were blocking ports
and explained the symptoms. They said they weren't, but about an hour later,
with no other changes on my part, I was able to access the application I
needed to. I don't know if they unblocked ports or modified my modem
settings from their end, but it magically started working.
Things that make you go hrmmmmmmmmmmm... Perhaps they could smell the scent
of a customer getting ready to leave? ;-)

73 de VK3JED
http://vkradio.com


Re: Actiontec DSL Modem/Router Trouble

Jeff Tong <brcomm@...>
 

I had a similar problem with my Actiontec and Quest, and it amazingly
disappeared after I called Quest and asked them if they were blocking ports
and explained the symptoms. They said they weren't, but about an hour later,
with no other changes on my part, I was able to access the application I
needed to. I don't know if they unblocked ports or modified my modem
settings from their end, but it magically started working.

Jeff
AA7GK
Node 3692


Re: Actiontec DSL Modem/Router Trouble

Gary McDuffie, Sr. <mcduffie@...>
 

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 00:48:35 -0700, Ross wrote:

I had to go to a cable modem ISP for many reasons but the main was MSN my
DSL ISP provider made it impossible due to their provided DSL modem
settings. I'm not sure here but it may be your ISP give them a call and
ask if you have a public accessible IP address. Good Luck
I'm assuming everyone knows that you need to have the modem in 'bridging
mode'. The modem needs to pass the IP address from the ISP to the
router so that NAT takes place there and NOT in the modem. The commands
are sometime available online (modem manufacturer), and your provider
usually needs to make the change. An outsider should be able to ping
the outside address as seen on your router's status page. Once you are
done testing, you should then turn off the ability to ping. Just
another part of being transparent to the hackers.

Sorry if this is old news, but it sounded like something that might need
to be included here.

Gary - AGØN

--
IRLP node 3055
ag0n at arrl dot net
http colon//garymcduffie dot com


Re: Actiontec DSL Modem/Router Trouble

Ross J
 

I had to go to a cable modem ISP for many reasons but the main was MSN my
DSL ISP provider made it impossible due to their provided DSL modem
settings. I'm not sure here but it may be your ISP give them a call and
ask if you have a public accessible IP address. Good Luck

Ross KC7RJK 3543

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Langdon (ATC)" <tlangdon@atctraining.com.au>
To: <irlp@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 10:48 PM
Subject: RE: [irlp] Re: Actiontec DSL Modem/Router Trouble


Yes...he has access to outside world. He can surf from windoze ;)

And NAT is turned on......
OK, there's a couple of obvious bases covered..



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Re: Actiontec DSL Modem/Router Trouble

Tony Langdon (ATC) <tlangdon@...>
 

Yes...he has access to outside world. He can surf from windoze ;)

And NAT is turned on......
OK, there's a couple of obvious bases covered..


Re: Actiontec DSL Modem/Router Trouble

Tony Langdon (ATC) <tlangdon@...>
 

And no...we don't if they are. I can't traceroute
or ping back to him from my IP. But he does indicate
that he sees increased modem activity when I do try to
ping. That makes me think the problem is at the modem.
By the way, his ISP is Qwest DSL if anyone has info on
whether or not they block ports.
I'm starting to wonder if NAT is turned on in the router, though if it
wasn't, they would be seeing strange packets from your private LAN.

Can you access the Internet? Fire up a Windows box and start surfing. :)


Re: Actiontec DSL Modem/Router Trouble

Albert Lawson
 

--- In irlp@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Langdon (ATC)" <tlangdon@a...>
wrote:
And no...we don't if they are. I can't traceroute
or ping back to him from my IP. But he does indicate
that he sees increased modem activity when I do try to
ping. That makes me think the problem is at the modem.
By the way, his ISP is Qwest DSL if anyone has info on
whether or not they block ports.
I'm starting to wonder if NAT is turned on in the router, though if
it
wasn't, they would be seeing strange packets from your private LAN.

Can you access the Internet? Fire up a Windows box and start
surfing. :)

Yes...he has access to outside world. He can surf from windoze ;)

And NAT is turned on......

73's

Albert


Re: Actiontec DSL Modem/Router Trouble

Albert Lawson
 

--- In irlp@yahoogroups.com, "Tony Langdon (ATC)" <tlangdon@a...>
wrote:
Does anyone have experience with using the Actiontec GT701-WG
with
IRLP...???

I'm trying to help another ham setup IRLP and we can't seem
to get inbound packets through to the linux box. Outbound
works just fine and in fact the node shows up on the irlp
status page as idle. (node 3089)

Nothing inbound seems to work....ping, ssh, telnet, ftp.

We're using static ip configuration, the linux box IP is
set as the DMZ host, and we've even tried specific port
routing (22 for ssh, 14525 - 14527 tcp and 2079 - 2093 udp
and still nothing.

Any help would be aprecciated..!!!!
DMZ should work. A couple of queries:

1. What is your external IP address?
2. Are you sure the ISP is not blocking ports?
65.102.32.34

And no...we don't if they are. I can't traceroute
or ping back to him from my IP. But he does indicate
that he sees increased modem activity when I do try to
ping. That makes me think the problem is at the modem.
By the way, his ISP is Qwest DSL if anyone has info on
whether or not they block ports.

73's

Albert


Re: Actiontec DSL Modem/Router Trouble

Tony Langdon (ATC) <tlangdon@...>
 

Does anyone have experience with using the Actiontec GT701-WG with
IRLP...???

I'm trying to help another ham setup IRLP and we can't seem
to get inbound packets through to the linux box. Outbound
works just fine and in fact the node shows up on the irlp
status page as idle. (node 3089)

Nothing inbound seems to work....ping, ssh, telnet, ftp.

We're using static ip configuration, the linux box IP is
set as the DMZ host, and we've even tried specific port
routing (22 for ssh, 14525 - 14527 tcp and 2079 - 2093 udp
and still nothing.

Any help would be aprecciated..!!!!
DMZ should work. A couple of queries:

1. What is your external IP address?
2. Are you sure the ISP is not blocking ports?


Actiontec DSL Modem/Router Trouble

Albert Lawson
 

Does anyone have experience with using the Actiontec GT701-WG with
IRLP...???

I'm trying to help another ham setup IRLP and we can't seem to
get inbound packets through to the linux box. Outbound works
just fine and in fact the node shows up on the irlp status
page as idle. (node 3089)

Nothing inbound seems to work....ping, ssh, telnet, ftp.

We're using static ip configuration, the linux box IP is
set as the DMZ host, and we've even tried specific port
routing (22 for ssh, 14525 - 14527 tcp and 2079 - 2093 udp
and still nothing.

Any help would be aprecciated..!!!!

Thanks es 73's

Albert/WB7AWL


Re: Time zone change...

k9dc <gingrich2@...>
 

--- In irlp@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr <nate@n...> wrote:

The command-line program for RedHat 9 is called "redhat-config-date" -
it provides the command line utilities to set the timezone in all the
correct places on the filesystem in RH9.

What I don't have handy is a copy of Dave's RH9 CD to see if it's
properly installed during an IRLP installation...

If it's not, it's available on various RedHat 9 mirrors worldwide, and
we can help you through installing the RPM package.

Can someone see if it's on your default installed RH9/IRLP system please?
It is not on the IRLP RH9 distro. The rpm for redhat-config-date installs
ok, but when running it complains about an X server not being available.
(probably something from the X library somewhere). It runs fine in text
mode on my more complete RH9 boxes, but not my vanilla RH9 node.

-Dave K9DC


Re: Time Update

Michael J. Hartwick <hartwick@...>
 

On Tue, 7 Sep 2004 at 18:21 (-0600), Nate Duehr wrote:

ND> Michael J. Hartwick wrote:
ND>
ND> >If your clock drifts this much you would be much farther ahead to make
ND> >use of NTP. I know that there has been discussion on this list about
ND> >make use of NTP. There is a little information in the unofficial
ND> >manual about it. It doesn't make the time jump, instead moves it much
ND> >more gradually and then keeps it in sync.
ND> >
ND> >
ND> NTP also typically is set up to REFUSE to sync your clock if it's more
ND> than 5 minutes off (it assumes correctly that something is so wrong that
ND> the system admin really needs to take a look at it and make a rational
ND> decision about what's going on). The ntpdate command is available for

True, but once the clock is yanked to current NTP will keep it that
way. :)

Michael

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Re: Hurricane Frances telecommunication outage statistics

Richard Cook <w2rac@...>
 

I would have been on air but my DSL modem blew its 9v transformer, just got back on the air at 1pm.

Will be better prepaired next time.



Nate Duehr <nate@natetech.com> wrote:
I have these numbers from a "fairly credible" source.

I just am posting them to show how important a flexible communications
system (sometimes changing by the minute as hams work to put up
temporary repeaters, links, etc.) that Ham Radio truly is during a true
disaster for communications.

This information is also a couple of days old, but shows some of the
peak outage numbers for the wireline-based services.

-----

Florida EOC reports 1.1 million wireline customer outages state-wide.
30% cell phone coverage outage reported. Coordinating communication set
up for priority T1 lines, POTS, DSL etc.

Bellsouth: 775,000 customer outages statewide (13.1% without service)
Palm Beach, Indian River, St. Lucie and Martin Counties: (29.5%)
Orange, Brevard and Volusia Counties: (19.5%)
Plus other outages in various service areas
Sprint: 174,000 (central and southern Florida)
Verizon: 8,100
Adelphia Cable: evaluating damage
Comcast TV Cable: evaluating damage

-----

Good job, to all the stations who worked the Florida disaster(s).
Here's hoping the next one is a little easier on the infrastructure in a
week or so...

Nate Duehr, nate@natetech.com - WY0X


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Hurricane Frances telecommunication outage statistics

Nate Duehr <nate@...>
 

I have these numbers from a "fairly credible" source.

I just am posting them to show how important a flexible communications system (sometimes changing by the minute as hams work to put up temporary repeaters, links, etc.) that Ham Radio truly is during a true disaster for communications.

This information is also a couple of days old, but shows some of the peak outage numbers for the wireline-based services.

-----

Florida EOC reports 1.1 million wireline customer outages state-wide.
30% cell phone coverage outage reported. Coordinating communication set
up for priority T1 lines, POTS, DSL etc.

Bellsouth: 775,000 customer outages statewide (13.1% without service)
Palm Beach, Indian River, St. Lucie and Martin Counties: (29.5%)
Orange, Brevard and Volusia Counties: (19.5%)
Plus other outages in various service areas
Sprint: 174,000 (central and southern Florida)
Verizon: 8,100
Adelphia Cable: evaluating damage
Comcast TV Cable: evaluating damage

-----

Good job, to all the stations who worked the Florida disaster(s). Here's hoping the next one is a little easier on the infrastructure in a week or so...

Nate Duehr, nate@natetech.com - WY0X


Re: Time zone change...

David I. McAnally <kf7fly@...>
 

Nope, not found in the default install from Dave's RH9 IRLP CDROM.

David (KF7FLY)

-----Original Message-----
From: Nate Duehr

Enrique,

The command-line program for RedHat 9 is called "redhat-config-date" -
it provides the command line utilities to set the timezone in all the
correct places on the filesystem in RH9.

What I don't have handy is a copy of Dave's RH9 CD to see if it's
properly installed during an IRLP installation...

If it's not, it's available on various RedHat 9 mirrors worldwide, and
we can help you through installing the RPM package.

Can someone see if it's on your default installed RH9/IRLP system please?

Nate WY0X


Re: Time zone change...

Nate Duehr <nate@...>
 

Ing. Enrique Rodriguez Ll. wrote:

Hi to all...!

I�m new to the group and new to IRLP and Linux.
When I did the initial installation from the ISO CD, I made and error selecting the wrong Time Zone for my city. The system is in the EDT zone but for Mexico City must be CDT at the moment.
How can I change this setting ? I have only installed the text version of RH 9.
Thanks in advance.

73 y DX de XE1E Enrique.
Node IRLP 8952
Mexico City
Enrique,

The command-line program for RedHat 9 is called "redhat-config-date" - it provides the command line utilities to set the timezone in all the correct places on the filesystem in RH9.

What I don't have handy is a copy of Dave's RH9 CD to see if it's properly installed during an IRLP installation...

If it's not, it's available on various RedHat 9 mirrors worldwide, and we can help you through installing the RPM package.

Can someone see if it's on your default installed RH9/IRLP system please?

Nate WY0X


Re: Time Update

Nate Duehr <nate@...>
 

Michael J. Hartwick wrote:

If your clock drifts this much you would be much farther ahead to make
use of NTP. I know that there has been discussion on this list about
make use of NTP. There is a little information in the unofficial
manual about it. It doesn't make the time jump, instead moves it much
more gradually and then keeps it in sync.
NTP also typically is set up to REFUSE to sync your clock if it's more than 5 minutes off (it assumes correctly that something is so wrong that the system admin really needs to take a look at it and make a rational decision about what's going on). The ntpdate command is available for fast slewing of the clock.

Nate WY0X