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Re: old node keeps IP busy...

Juan Tellez
 

Thanks for the suggestion, just send an e-mail asking for this.



JT, XE2SI

stn8378



From: irlp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:irlp@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Gingrich
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:53 AM
To: irlp@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [irlp] old node keeps IP busy...



Send this one to installs @irlp.net. They can clear the link for you.

-k9dc

On Feb 20, 2009, at 14:50, Juan Tellez wrote:

Hello to all:
Is there a way to release my IP to start assembling a new node?, the
node
just made was sent to a friend

south of Tijuana, he has not connected it yet, and seems will get
few more
days to do it, so my IP address

can't be used for a new IRLP project.


Re: Battery power for Node 4629

Mike Morris WA6ILQ <wa6ilq@...>
 

First, don't assume that you are going to have an internet connection
during a power fail. Some cable systems either never installed a
battery plant at their head end, or have not replaced the batteries
after they die.

Second of all, the average ham does not know how to take care
of a battery plant - be it a single battery or a room full of glass
jar Edison cells. Look at www.homepower.com - it's the we site
for Home Power magazine, the bible of the off-the-grid community.
It's published by Richard Perez N7BCR and Karen Perez KA7ETV
and they "walk the walk" as well as "talk the talk" - the entire
magazine is put together (including paste-ups) using off-the-grid
computers.
The magazine is published 6 times a year and their web site is
a fountain of information.

Third, the DC transfer problem has already been solved. Get a
12v power supply that can run the entire load, plus provide
enough amps to recharge the batteries in a decent amount of
time after a power failure. Your choice of a linear or a switcher,
but I tend to lean towards a linear. Astron is a well-known brand,
but their design lacks a few nice features, a few of which have
been covered on the Astron page at www.repeater-builder.com

Whatever source of 12v you use, feed it to a West Mountain
Radio PWRGate of a decent size (maybe a PG40S) and let
it switch the load from the Astron/Duracom/whatever to the
battery and back..

Third, if you can, use 12v loads exclusively. There are routers
that run off +12 directly - Linksys is one brad that has 12v models.
Most Mini-ITX based computers run off 12v directly, are very
efficient and make nice node computers. Via is one of the
names in that market.
Look here: <http://www.mini-itx.com/>
Or here:<http://www.mini-box.com/site/index.html>
Or here: <http://www.logicsupply.com/>
This looks promising:
<http://damnsmalllinux.org/store/Mini_ITX_Systems/Mini_ITX_BareBones_Computer>

Fourth, if your site has a generator, this article is of interest and
shows why you DON'T want an APC brand UPS:
<http://www.rwonline.com/article/74034> and scroll down to the
section that starts with "On a different subject, awhile back we
had a discussion of running uninterruptible power supplies
with backup generators"...

Mike WA6ILQ

At 08:40 AM 02/20/09, you wrote:

What is everyone using for DC battery backup for the node computer,
router, modem, etc, in the event of a power failure? I'm looking for
something seamless that doesn't require an AC UPS. See my delimma,
below. Thanks for your time.

Phil/NV4P
Node 4629

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Battery power
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:34:31 -0600
From: Phil D. Mills/NV4P <<mailto:phil%40nv4p.com>phil@nv4p.com>
Reply-To: <mailto:phil%40nv4p.com>phil@nv4p.com
Organization: NV4P
To: WA4WKL
<<mailto:julian.harris%40earthlink.net>julian.harris@earthlink.net>, KG4KGW
<<mailto:kneedeep1%40hotmail.com>kneedeep1@hotmail.com>, W4PWB
<<mailto:kg4ung1%40hotmail.com>kg4ung1@hotmail.com>, K6JSI
<<mailto:k6jsi%40winsystem.org>k6jsi@winsystem.org>, KD4WCY
<<mailto:ellisdarius%40bellsouth.net>ellisdarius@bellsouth.net>, KG4DMB
<<mailto:kg4dmb67%40hotmail.com>kg4dmb67@hotmail.com>

Good morning...

Just a quick note to let everyone know, I have lowered the transmitter
power of NV4P/L to 5 watts until an adequate (but not pricey) source of
DC voltage can be acquired or purchased soon. I discovered a couple of
days ago, that at its former power level of 25 watts, the radio's
display would dim and the fan would almost quit. Recharging the attached
marine battery did not help. I believe that the battery has just about
had it. My ultimate goal is to obtain at least a 30amp power supply, a
cheap but good quality deep cycle marine battery for backup, and some
sort of switching mechanism to move the radio, and required node
PC/router/cable modem, to the marine battery automatically, in the event
of an AC power failure in the future. (Thus bypassing all of the
equipment's 120vAC transformers and power supplies, as they only really
need 12vDC or less to run.) I do not want to have to rely on the
commercial mains to keep the node on the air, if at all possible. I've
been lucky to have the UPS serve the node PC and networking equipment,
and not have any prolonged power outages. If I have to build this
switching mechanism myself, I'll do it, but it will be something new for
me, with a steep learning curve, thus requiring a LOT of time.

Can someone let Rick KI4LSS know? I don't have his email address. I
think I covered the most frequent users with an interest to Pensacola.
Primary item of business here is getting the node radio a DC power
source so I can run more than just 5 watts without killing the radio.

Thanks

Phil D. Mills/NV4P, Pensacola, FL
NV4P/L - 146.46MHz, pl 100Hz.
IRLP Node 4629, EchoLink Node 46290
WIN System Affiliate #65


Re: Alsaconf for CentOS 5

iain macdonnell - N6ML
 

Yes, unsupported... but if you're OK with that, maybe try running
"system-config-soundcard" ?

ALSA "just worked" (didn't need alsaconf) on CentOS 5.2 for me.

~Iain / N6ML


nj1q wrote:

Hi guys,
I'm new to this, so please bear with me! :-)
I'm running CentOS 5 and went through the IRLP install. However, I'm unable to find Alsaconf.
I installed all the alsa.* files (that I could find) that were on the CD, but when I run "Alsaconf," I still get the "file not found" error.
Does anyone know where I can download a copy for install? Thanks!
73,
Joe, NJ1Q


Re: old node keeps IP busy...

Dave K9DC
 

Send this one to installs @irlp.net. They can clear the link for you.

-k9dc

On Feb 20, 2009, at 14:50, Juan Tellez wrote:

Hello to all:
Is there a way to release my IP to start assembling a new node?, the node
just made was sent to a friend

south of Tijuana, he has not connected it yet, and seems will get few more
days to do it, so my IP address

can't be used for a new IRLP project.


Re: old node keeps IP busy...

Jim WW4M
 

Send a request to installs@irlp.net and include your IP address.

73, Jim WW4M

--- In irlp@yahoogroups.com, "Juan Tellez" <xe2si@...> wrote:



Hello to all:



Is there a way to release my IP to start assembling a new node?, the
node
just made was sent to a friend

south of Tijuana, he has not connected it yet, and seems will get
few more
days to do it, so my IP address

can't be used for a new IRLP project.



Juan Tellez, XE2SI

node 8378



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


old node keeps IP busy...

Juan Tellez
 

Hello to all:



Is there a way to release my IP to start assembling a new node?, the node
just made was sent to a friend

south of Tijuana, he has not connected it yet, and seems will get few more
days to do it, so my IP address

can't be used for a new IRLP project.



Juan Tellez, XE2SI

node 8378


Re: Alsaconf for CentOS 5

Dave K9DC
 

IRLP on CentOS 5 is not supported. Sorry.

Alsaconf is specifically modified for IRLP, you might be able to use the binaries from the IRLP distribution directly, but I don't know. Never tried it.

-k9dc

On Feb 20, 2009, at 13:42, nj1q wrote:

Hi guys,

I'm new to this, so please bear with me! :-)

I'm running CentOS 5 and went through the IRLP install. However, I'm
unable to find Alsaconf.

I installed all the alsa.* files (that I could find) that were on the
CD, but when I run "Alsaconf," I still get the "file not found" error.

Does anyone know where I can download a copy for install?


Re: Battery power for Node 4629

Dave K9DC
 

It probably depends on what kind of power supply is in the node PC. If the node is 12v (13.8) powered, nearly anything will do. If is an AC supply you are probably better off with a UPS. But that depends upon how long you want it to run.

At my main repeater site (broadcast tower), I have an APC UPS installed (400W I think), that I got for free. It will run the node for several hours, although I have replaced the batteries a couple of times. No backup power on the repeater.

At my home, I am using an APC UPS on the node AND the repeater, plus I have an automatic standby generator connected to the public natural gas supply, so I only need minutes of run time out of the UPSs.

In my vehicle (motorhome) the node, router/cell modem and the repeater are all powered directly from 12V. They run on the vehicle house battery, which is a pair of 225 amp/hour 6V golf cart batteries. 200 watts of solar panels keep them charged if outside, or plugged in the wall if the vehicle is in the garage. I really have no idea how long that will run, because many other things in the vehicle share the 12v source, like inside lighting, furnace, fridge, TV, etc. If the sun is shining, likely to be indefinitely.

If you are planning to run on 12v for primary power, the object should be to first minimize the consumption of all components. A 12v node computer *can* consume as little as 10-15 watts. If you need a router, find one that runs from 12v directly (my Cradlepoint runs from 12v, as do many Linksys), probably 4-5 watts. Of course you need a repeater running from 12v also. My mobile Kenwood repeater consumes about 6-7 amps (95 watts) on transmit at 25 watts. On receive (idle) around 700 ma (10 watts). If you have a separate repeater controller, that would need to be added (my Kenwood does not need one). [Kinda nice that duplexers and isolators do not need power] Add it all up and factor in your transmit duty cycle and you can figure out how large a battery to look for, based upon your run time requirements.

Make sure you can adjust the output voltage of the power supply to be exactly at, or slightly above the spec'd float voltage for the battery. You do not want to overcharge the battery.

It sounds to me like you need one of those Samlex SEC-1223 switching power supplies. Very small and light, 23 amps continuous. Less than $100. Even though there is no external adjustment, there is a pot inside that you can precisely adjust the output voltage to whatever you need to keep the battery up. For most gel-cells that is probably 13.9 - 14.2, but you need to check the specs for the battery you choose. Pick out the battery you need for the run time you want. Visit your local Batteries Plus store, they are usually fairly knowledgeable, and have the printed information for the products they have (although their prices an often not the best).

-Dave K9DC

On Feb 20, 2009, at 11:40, Phil D. Mills/NV4P wrote:

What is everyone using for DC battery backup for the node computer,
router, modem, etc, in the event of a power failure? I'm looking for
something seamless that doesn't require an AC UPS. See my delimma,
below. Thanks for your time.

Phil/NV4P
Node 4629

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Battery power
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:34:31 -0600
From: Phil D. Mills/NV4P <phil@nv4p.com>
Reply-To: phil@nv4p.com
Organization: NV4P
To: WA4WKL <julian.harris@earthlink.net>, KG4KGW
<kneedeep1@hotmail.com>, W4PWB <kg4ung1@hotmail.com>, K6JSI
<k6jsi@winsystem.org>, KD4WCY <ellisdarius@bellsouth.net>, KG4DMB
<kg4dmb67@hotmail.com>



Good morning...

Just a quick note to let everyone know, I have lowered the transmitter
power of NV4P/L to 5 watts until an adequate (but not pricey) source of
DC voltage can be acquired or purchased soon. I discovered a couple of
days ago, that at its former power level of 25 watts, the radio's
display would dim and the fan would almost quit. Recharging the attached
marine battery did not help. I believe that the battery has just about
had it. My ultimate goal is to obtain at least a 30amp power supply, a
cheap but good quality deep cycle marine battery for backup, and some
sort of switching mechanism to move the radio, and required node
PC/router/cable modem, to the marine battery automatically, in the event
of an AC power failure in the future. (Thus bypassing all of the
equipment's 120vAC transformers and power supplies, as they only really
need 12vDC or less to run.) I do not want to have to rely on the
commercial mains to keep the node on the air, if at all possible. I've
been lucky to have the UPS serve the node PC and networking equipment,
and not have any prolonged power outages. If I have to build this
switching mechanism myself, I'll do it, but it will be something new for
me, with a steep learning curve, thus requiring a LOT of time.

Can someone let Rick KI4LSS know? I don't have his email address. I
think I covered the most frequent users with an interest to Pensacola.
Primary item of business here is getting the node radio a DC power
source so I can run more than just 5 watts without killing the radio.

Thanks

Phil D. Mills/NV4P, Pensacola, FL
NV4P/L - 146.46MHz, pl 100Hz.
IRLP Node 4629, EchoLink Node 46290
WIN System Affiliate #65


Alsaconf for CentOS 5

Joe Carcia
 

Hi guys,

I'm new to this, so please bear with me! :-)

I'm running CentOS 5 and went through the IRLP install. However, I'm
unable to find Alsaconf.

I installed all the alsa.* files (that I could find) that were on the
CD, but when I run "Alsaconf," I still get the "file not found" error.

Does anyone know where I can download a copy for install?

Thanks!

73,

Joe, NJ1Q


Re: Battery power for Node 4629

Dave Foran <dave@...>
 

I am sorry

But I just enjoy the quiet and I go grease the bearings in the watt hour
meter.. ;-)

Dave, WB8APD, Node 4299

;-)


On Fri, February 20, 2009 11:40, Phil D. Mills/NV4P wrote:
What is everyone using for DC battery backup for the node computer,
router, modem, etc, in the event of a power failure? I'm looking for
something seamless that doesn't require an AC UPS. See my delimma,
below. Thanks for your time.

Phil/NV4P
Node 4629

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Battery power
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:34:31 -0600
From: Phil D. Mills/NV4P <phil@nv4p.com>
Reply-To: phil@nv4p.com
Organization: NV4P
To: WA4WKL <julian.harris@earthlink.net>, KG4KGW
<kneedeep1@hotmail.com>, W4PWB <kg4ung1@hotmail.com>, K6JSI
<k6jsi@winsystem.org>, KD4WCY <ellisdarius@bellsouth.net>, KG4DMB
<kg4dmb67@hotmail.com>



Good morning...

Just a quick note to let everyone know, I have lowered the transmitter
power of NV4P/L to 5 watts until an adequate (but not pricey) source of
DC voltage can be acquired or purchased soon. I discovered a couple of
days ago, that at its former power level of 25 watts, the radio's
display would dim and the fan would almost quit. Recharging the attached
marine battery did not help. I believe that the battery has just about
had it. My ultimate goal is to obtain at least a 30amp power supply, a
cheap but good quality deep cycle marine battery for backup, and some
sort of switching mechanism to move the radio, and required node
PC/router/cable modem, to the marine battery automatically, in the event
of an AC power failure in the future. (Thus bypassing all of the
equipment's 120vAC transformers and power supplies, as they only really
need 12vDC or less to run.) I do not want to have to rely on the
commercial mains to keep the node on the air, if at all possible. I've
been lucky to have the UPS serve the node PC and networking equipment,
and not have any prolonged power outages. If I have to build this
switching mechanism myself, I'll do it, but it will be something new for
me, with a steep learning curve, thus requiring a LOT of time.

Can someone let Rick KI4LSS know? I don't have his email address. I
think I covered the most frequent users with an interest to Pensacola.
Primary item of business here is getting the node radio a DC power
source so I can run more than just 5 watts without killing the radio.

Thanks

Phil D. Mills/NV4P, Pensacola, FL
NV4P/L - 146.46MHz, pl 100Hz.
IRLP Node 4629, EchoLink Node 46290
WIN System Affiliate #65



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Re: Battery power for Node 4629

Peter
 

I use a large car/truck battery that is kept charged by 15 amp
battery charger and a DC to AC power inverter to power the PC and
monitor, the radio and router are powered off the battery but you
could power the router off the inverter.

On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Evans Mitchell KD4EFM / AFA4TH FL /
WQFK-894 <kd4efm1@verizon.net> wrote:
3 APC UPS 2500, 1 for the entire D-Star system, one each for our
IRLP/EchoIRLP nodes.... the repeaters are on their own separate
EMERG GEN POWER.

Evans

-----Original Message-----
From: irlp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:irlp@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Phil D. Mills/NV4P
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:41 AM
To: irlp@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [irlp] Battery power for Node 4629

What is everyone using for DC battery backup for the node computer,
router, modem, etc, in the event of a power failure? I'm looking for
something seamless that doesn't require an AC UPS. See my delimma,
below. Thanks for your time.

Phil/NV4P
Node 4629

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Battery power
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:34:31 -0600
From: Phil D. Mills/NV4P <phil@nv4p.com <mailto:phil%40nv4p.com> >
Reply-To: phil@nv4p.com <mailto:phil%40nv4p.com>
Organization: NV4P
To: WA4WKL <julian.harris@earthlink.net
<mailto:julian.harris%40earthlink.net> >, KG4KGW
<kneedeep1@hotmail.com <mailto:kneedeep1%40hotmail.com> >, W4PWB
<kg4ung1@hotmail.com <mailto:kg4ung1%40hotmail.com> >, K6JSI
<k6jsi@winsystem.org <mailto:k6jsi%40winsystem.org> >, KD4WCY
<ellisdarius@bellsouth.net <mailto:ellisdarius%40bellsouth.net> >,
KG4DMB
<kg4dmb67@hotmail.com <mailto:kg4dmb67%40hotmail.com> >

Good morning...

Just a quick note to let everyone know, I have lowered the transmitter
power of NV4P/L to 5 watts until an adequate (but not pricey) source of
DC voltage can be acquired or purchased soon. I discovered a couple of
days ago, that at its former power level of 25 watts, the radio's
display would dim and the fan would almost quit. Recharging the attached

marine battery did not help. I believe that the battery has just about
had it. My ultimate goal is to obtain at least a 30amp power supply, a
cheap but good quality deep cycle marine battery for backup, and some
sort of switching mechanism to move the radio, and required node
PC/router/cable modem, to the marine battery automatically, in the event

of an AC power failure in the future. (Thus bypassing all of the
equipment's 120vAC transformers and power supplies, as they only really
need 12vDC or less to run.) I do not want to have to rely on the
commercial mains to keep the node on the air, if at all possible. I've
been lucky to have the UPS serve the node PC and networking equipment,
and not have any prolonged power outages. If I have to build this
switching mechanism myself, I'll do it, but it will be something new for

me, with a steep learning curve, thus requiring a LOT of time.

Can someone let Rick KI4LSS know? I don't have his email address. I
think I covered the most frequent users with an interest to Pensacola.
Primary item of business here is getting the node radio a DC power
source so I can run more than just 5 watts without killing the radio.

Thanks

Phil D. Mills/NV4P, Pensacola, FL
NV4P/L - 146.46MHz, pl 100Hz.
IRLP Node 4629, EchoLink Node 46290
WIN System Affiliate #65



--
-------------------------------------
Regards, Peter Gurney.
M1GUR.


Re: Battery power for Node 4629

Evans Mitchell KD4EFM / AFA4TH FL / WQFK-894
 

3 APC UPS 2500, 1 for the entire D-Star system, one each for our
IRLP/EchoIRLP nodes.... the repeaters are on their own separate
EMERG GEN POWER.

Evans

-----Original Message-----
From: irlp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:irlp@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Phil D. Mills/NV4P
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:41 AM
To: irlp@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [irlp] Battery power for Node 4629

What is everyone using for DC battery backup for the node computer,
router, modem, etc, in the event of a power failure? I'm looking for
something seamless that doesn't require an AC UPS. See my delimma,
below. Thanks for your time.

Phil/NV4P
Node 4629

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Battery power
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:34:31 -0600
From: Phil D. Mills/NV4P <phil@nv4p.com <mailto:phil%40nv4p.com> >
Reply-To: phil@nv4p.com <mailto:phil%40nv4p.com>
Organization: NV4P
To: WA4WKL <julian.harris@earthlink.net
<mailto:julian.harris%40earthlink.net> >, KG4KGW
<kneedeep1@hotmail.com <mailto:kneedeep1%40hotmail.com> >, W4PWB
<kg4ung1@hotmail.com <mailto:kg4ung1%40hotmail.com> >, K6JSI
<k6jsi@winsystem.org <mailto:k6jsi%40winsystem.org> >, KD4WCY
<ellisdarius@bellsouth.net <mailto:ellisdarius%40bellsouth.net> >,
KG4DMB
<kg4dmb67@hotmail.com <mailto:kg4dmb67%40hotmail.com> >

Good morning...

Just a quick note to let everyone know, I have lowered the transmitter
power of NV4P/L to 5 watts until an adequate (but not pricey) source of
DC voltage can be acquired or purchased soon. I discovered a couple of
days ago, that at its former power level of 25 watts, the radio's
display would dim and the fan would almost quit. Recharging the attached

marine battery did not help. I believe that the battery has just about
had it. My ultimate goal is to obtain at least a 30amp power supply, a
cheap but good quality deep cycle marine battery for backup, and some
sort of switching mechanism to move the radio, and required node
PC/router/cable modem, to the marine battery automatically, in the event

of an AC power failure in the future. (Thus bypassing all of the
equipment's 120vAC transformers and power supplies, as they only really
need 12vDC or less to run.) I do not want to have to rely on the
commercial mains to keep the node on the air, if at all possible. I've
been lucky to have the UPS serve the node PC and networking equipment,
and not have any prolonged power outages. If I have to build this
switching mechanism myself, I'll do it, but it will be something new for

me, with a steep learning curve, thus requiring a LOT of time.

Can someone let Rick KI4LSS know? I don't have his email address. I
think I covered the most frequent users with an interest to Pensacola.
Primary item of business here is getting the node radio a DC power
source so I can run more than just 5 watts without killing the radio.

Thanks

Phil D. Mills/NV4P, Pensacola, FL
NV4P/L - 146.46MHz, pl 100Hz.
IRLP Node 4629, EchoLink Node 46290
WIN System Affiliate #65


Re: Battery power for Node 4629

saugsburger@...
 

Hey Phil,
I use a Tripp Lite SB-400 unit to power my SCADA equipment in
substations which includes a 5 watt radio. I use a sealed lead acid 38Ah
battery and it stays powered for 3.5 hours polling every 20 seconds. Let
alone a marine battery. This unit converts 12 VDC to 120 VAC plus it
charges too. These units have been very reliable. I have around 25 in
service. If any problem crop up it's normally the battery. The normal
UPS has really small battery capacity. That's why I like this combo.

This maybe perfect set up for you. Check it out.

Scott
wr0u

Access Energy Cooperative
Scott Augsburger
Mount Pleasant, Iowa
319-385-6876 Office
319-931-0906 Cellphone
wr0u



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What is everyone using for DC battery backup for the node computer,
router, modem, etc, in the event of a power failure? I'm looking for
something seamless that doesn't require an AC UPS. See my delimma,
below. Thanks for your time.

Phil/NV4P
Node 4629

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Battery power
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:34:31 -0600
From: Phil D. Mills/NV4P <phil@nv4p.com>
Reply-To: phil@nv4p.com
Organization: NV4P
To: WA4WKL <julian.harris@earthlink.net>, KG4KGW
<kneedeep1@hotmail.com>, W4PWB <kg4ung1@hotmail.com>, K6JSI
<k6jsi@winsystem.org>, KD4WCY <ellisdarius@bellsouth.net>, KG4DMB
<kg4dmb67@hotmail.com>

Good morning...

Just a quick note to let everyone know, I have lowered the transmitter
power of NV4P/L to 5 watts until an adequate (but not pricey) source of
DC voltage can be acquired or purchased soon. I discovered a couple of
days ago, that at its former power level of 25 watts, the radio's
display would dim and the fan would almost quit. Recharging the attached
marine battery did not help. I believe that the battery has just about
had it. My ultimate goal is to obtain at least a 30amp power supply, a
cheap but good quality deep cycle marine battery for backup, and some
sort of switching mechanism to move the radio, and required node
PC/router/cable modem, to the marine battery automatically, in the event
of an AC power failure in the future. (Thus bypassing all of the
equipment's 120vAC transformers and power supplies, as they only really
need 12vDC or less to run.) I do not want to have to rely on the
commercial mains to keep the node on the air, if at all possible. I've
been lucky to have the UPS serve the node PC and networking equipment,
and not have any prolonged power outages. If I have to build this
switching mechanism myself, I'll do it, but it will be something new for
me, with a steep learning curve, thus requiring a LOT of time.

Can someone let Rick KI4LSS know? I don't have his email address. I
think I covered the most frequent users with an interest to Pensacola.
Primary item of business here is getting the node radio a DC power
source so I can run more than just 5 watts without killing the radio.

Thanks

Phil D. Mills/NV4P, Pensacola, FL
NV4P/L - 146.46MHz, pl 100Hz.
IRLP Node 4629, EchoLink Node 46290
WIN System Affiliate #65


Re: Battery power for Node 4629

Charles J Killian
 

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Here's how I would do it.

Replace the power supply in the node computer with a 12 VDC supply side
switching supply.

http://www.powerstream.com/mini-itx.htm is one place to look at such a
thing.

Obtain your battery or batteries and hook them to a West Mountain Radio
PWRGate PG40S. Hook a good stiff ANALOG (say Astron) 12 VDC supply to
the PWRGate, hook your load to the PWRGate (radio, computer, controller,
what-have-you).

Get a small inverter for anything that simply must have 110 VAC.

When the AC mains are live the PWRGate acts as a pretty fair charge
controller. When the mains fail everything switches to the battery
nearly instantaneously.

I use this set up at home for my station. When I get equipment for the
station I try and make sure it runs on 12 VDC. I'm heavy into emcomm
and I have no issues.


As to batteries, try and find someone who works for an outfit that
installs industrial grade UPS systems. Generally, by contract, they
will do wholesale change out of batteries every couple of years or so at
an installation. I obtained 8 75 AH batteries at $15 a piece. Six of
them run my station and two are for portable use (at 60 lbs a piece not
so much). These are good glass mat batteries.

Hope this helps some.

Chuck...
WB6YOK


Phil D. Mills/NV4P wrote:
What is everyone using for DC battery backup for the node computer,
router, modem, etc, in the event of a power failure? I'm looking for
something seamless that doesn't require an AC UPS. See my delimma,
below. Thanks for your time.

Phil/NV4P
Node 4629

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Battery power
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:34:31 -0600
From: Phil D. Mills/NV4P <phil@nv4p.com>
Reply-To: phil@nv4p.com
Organization: NV4P
To: WA4WKL <julian.harris@earthlink.net>, KG4KGW
<kneedeep1@hotmail.com>, W4PWB <kg4ung1@hotmail.com>, K6JSI
<k6jsi@winsystem.org>, KD4WCY <ellisdarius@bellsouth.net>, KG4DMB
<kg4dmb67@hotmail.com>



Good morning...

Just a quick note to let everyone know, I have lowered the transmitter
power of NV4P/L to 5 watts until an adequate (but not pricey) source of
DC voltage can be acquired or purchased soon. I discovered a couple of
days ago, that at its former power level of 25 watts, the radio's
display would dim and the fan would almost quit. Recharging the attached
marine battery did not help. I believe that the battery has just about
had it. My ultimate goal is to obtain at least a 30amp power supply, a
cheap but good quality deep cycle marine battery for backup, and some
sort of switching mechanism to move the radio, and required node
PC/router/cable modem, to the marine battery automatically, in the event
of an AC power failure in the future. (Thus bypassing all of the
equipment's 120vAC transformers and power supplies, as they only really
need 12vDC or less to run.) I do not want to have to rely on the
commercial mains to keep the node on the air, if at all possible. I've
been lucky to have the UPS serve the node PC and networking equipment,
and not have any prolonged power outages. If I have to build this
switching mechanism myself, I'll do it, but it will be something new for
me, with a steep learning curve, thus requiring a LOT of time.

Can someone let Rick KI4LSS know? I don't have his email address. I
think I covered the most frequent users with an interest to Pensacola.
Primary item of business here is getting the node radio a DC power
source so I can run more than just 5 watts without killing the radio.

Thanks

Phil D. Mills/NV4P, Pensacola, FL
NV4P/L - 146.46MHz, pl 100Hz.
IRLP Node 4629, EchoLink Node 46290
WIN System Affiliate #65

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Re: Battery power for Node 4629

Rogers, Ron <RR124640@...>
 

I see you are using a cable modem.
At my location, if we loose commercial mains we loose cable service due
to "head end" cable system amplifier (about 1/2 mile away) loosing
power.

How does your cable service act when you loose power ?


Ron
WW8RR


________________________________

From: irlp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:irlp@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Phil D. Mills/NV4P
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:41 AM
To: irlp@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [irlp] Battery power for Node 4629



What is everyone using for DC battery backup for the node computer,
router, modem, etc, in the event of a power failure? I'm looking for
something seamless that doesn't require an AC UPS. See my delimma,
below. Thanks for your time.

Phil/NV4P
Node 4629

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Battery power
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:34:31 -0600
From: Phil D. Mills/NV4P <phil@nv4p.com <mailto:phil%40nv4p.com> >
Reply-To: phil@nv4p.com <mailto:phil%40nv4p.com>
Organization: NV4P
To: WA4WKL <julian.harris@earthlink.net
<mailto:julian.harris%40earthlink.net> >, KG4KGW
<kneedeep1@hotmail.com <mailto:kneedeep1%40hotmail.com> >, W4PWB
<kg4ung1@hotmail.com <mailto:kg4ung1%40hotmail.com> >, K6JSI
<k6jsi@winsystem.org <mailto:k6jsi%40winsystem.org> >, KD4WCY
<ellisdarius@bellsouth.net <mailto:ellisdarius%40bellsouth.net> >,
KG4DMB
<kg4dmb67@hotmail.com <mailto:kg4dmb67%40hotmail.com> >

Good morning...

Just a quick note to let everyone know, I have lowered the transmitter
power of NV4P/L to 5 watts until an adequate (but not pricey) source of
DC voltage can be acquired or purchased soon. I discovered a couple of
days ago, that at its former power level of 25 watts, the radio's
display would dim and the fan would almost quit. Recharging the attached

marine battery did not help. I believe that the battery has just about
had it. My ultimate goal is to obtain at least a 30amp power supply, a
cheap but good quality deep cycle marine battery for backup, and some
sort of switching mechanism to move the radio, and required node
PC/router/cable modem, to the marine battery automatically, in the event

of an AC power failure in the future. (Thus bypassing all of the
equipment's 120vAC transformers and power supplies, as they only really
need 12vDC or less to run.) I do not want to have to rely on the
commercial mains to keep the node on the air, if at all possible. I've
been lucky to have the UPS serve the node PC and networking equipment,
and not have any prolonged power outages. If I have to build this
switching mechanism myself, I'll do it, but it will be something new for

me, with a steep learning curve, thus requiring a LOT of time.

Can someone let Rick KI4LSS know? I don't have his email address. I
think I covered the most frequent users with an interest to Pensacola.
Primary item of business here is getting the node radio a DC power
source so I can run more than just 5 watts without killing the radio.

Thanks

Phil D. Mills/NV4P, Pensacola, FL
NV4P/L - 146.46MHz, pl 100Hz.
IRLP Node 4629, EchoLink Node 46290
WIN System Affiliate #65


Battery power for Node 4629

Phil D. Mills/NV4P <phil@...>
 

What is everyone using for DC battery backup for the node computer, router, modem, etc, in the event of a power failure? I'm looking for something seamless that doesn't require an AC UPS. See my delimma, below. Thanks for your time.

Phil/NV4P
Node 4629

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Battery power
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:34:31 -0600
From: Phil D. Mills/NV4P <phil@nv4p.com>
Reply-To: phil@nv4p.com
Organization: NV4P
To: WA4WKL <julian.harris@earthlink.net>, KG4KGW <kneedeep1@hotmail.com>, W4PWB <kg4ung1@hotmail.com>, K6JSI <k6jsi@winsystem.org>, KD4WCY <ellisdarius@bellsouth.net>, KG4DMB <kg4dmb67@hotmail.com>



Good morning...

Just a quick note to let everyone know, I have lowered the transmitter power of NV4P/L to 5 watts until an adequate (but not pricey) source of DC voltage can be acquired or purchased soon. I discovered a couple of days ago, that at its former power level of 25 watts, the radio's display would dim and the fan would almost quit. Recharging the attached marine battery did not help. I believe that the battery has just about had it. My ultimate goal is to obtain at least a 30amp power supply, a cheap but good quality deep cycle marine battery for backup, and some sort of switching mechanism to move the radio, and required node PC/router/cable modem, to the marine battery automatically, in the event of an AC power failure in the future. (Thus bypassing all of the equipment's 120vAC transformers and power supplies, as they only really need 12vDC or less to run.) I do not want to have to rely on the commercial mains to keep the node on the air, if at all possible. I've been lucky to have the UPS serve the node PC and networking equipment, and not have any prolonged power outages. If I have to build this switching mechanism myself, I'll do it, but it will be something new for me, with a steep learning curve, thus requiring a LOT of time.

Can someone let Rick KI4LSS know? I don't have his email address. I think I covered the most frequent users with an interest to Pensacola. Primary item of business here is getting the node radio a DC power source so I can run more than just 5 watts without killing the radio.

Thanks

Phil D. Mills/NV4P, Pensacola, FL
NV4P/L - 146.46MHz, pl 100Hz.
IRLP Node 4629, EchoLink Node 46290
WIN System Affiliate #65


Re: IRLP access prevented by a networked computer running AOL

iamcranked <Larry@...>
 

Thank you All for your reply,

We had visited the UPnP issue prior to the original posting but
appreciate it being brought up as a possible problem source . It was
active originally but had been disabled prior to my original post.
Running AOL still creates the problem with UPnP disabled.

Not being a current Windows or AOL person I was unaware of the Port
Magic issue and will certainly have him look at removing/disable it.

A migration to Ubuntu was already underway at my friends location and
once he's comfortable with it I'm sure this AOL problem will be become
a moot issue.

Thanks for your assistance.

Larry - N7FM

--- In irlp@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Curtis" <demoman@...> wrote:

I'd check the router's UPNP option.
Disable it and that should "clear things up".

Upnp allows port mapping on the fly and can override the static
settings.

Chris
Kb0wlf
3185

-----Original Message-----
From: irlp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:irlp@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
iamcranked
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:55 PM
To: irlp@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [irlp] IRLP access prevented by a networked computer
running AOL

Larry - N7FM - Node 3507

I was just helping a friend determine why his node quit accepting
incoming node connections.

We finally discovered that if a Windows computer was running an AOL
browser and/or email program from his local network it would prevent
ALL incoming traffic to his normal ComCast IP address as long as AOL
was active. Kill the AOL program and all went back to normal.

AOL's IP redirect, prevented Internet access TO any other
computer/server on the local network. Therefore no incoming node
connections or remote admin could occur when AOL was active.

Any way around this?... besides the obvious -- Junk AOL!

Thanks
Larry - N7FM











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Kenwood UHF Repeater and Node

Gerry Brentnall
 

Thanks to my proximity to the Pave Paws Radar at Beale AFB, California, and thanks to the FCC's order to reduce output power to a point which makes communications difficult or impractical, I have decided to sell my UHF repeater. Before I put it up on Ebay, since it is (or was) an operating IRLP node (3246), I thought I would offer it here first.

The repeater is a Kenwood TKR-850. Output is 45 watts. The sale includes an external duplexer. The repeater works great and is in good condition. I will also sell the Node computer which is hooked to it if you want.

If you are interested please contact me directly rather than through this group: WA6E at ARRL.NET

73

Gerry
WA6E


Re: IRLP access prevented by a networked computer running AOL

Dave K9DC
 

On Feb 19, 2009, at 9:42 AM, AG0N-3055 wrote:

I wouldn't have AOhelL on anything! But...some people do, so the
question will come up. What "service" will be disabled for the AOL
customer when UPnP is suddenly disabled?
The Internet and all other things evil :)

-k9dc


Re: IRLP access prevented by a networked computer running AOL

Jim Sandford <n7hqz.jim@...>
 

Gary, So very true. My daughters friends (teenagers) stay over, and one :needed to get online, so I gave her access to my wireless system and bang! Broken IRLP node! 5 minutes later, she had broken AOL and I had a working node again! Nice one Gary "AOhelL" Hehe! The end! 73! Jim

AG0N-3055 wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 06:21:24 -0800, Jim Sandford wrote:


Convenient, yes but no way secure! AOL Hi-Jacking uh, I mean Port Magic! This should fix your problem. It did for me! 73! Jim
I wouldn't have AOhelL on anything! But...some people do, so the
question will come up. What "service" will be disabled for the AOL
customer when UPnP is suddenly disabled? What's going to break for
them?

Gary