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Re: Installing from USB CD-ROM

Mitch Wolfson
 

I only disabled IDE1 after I couldn't get it to work. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't looking for an IDE CD-ROM at that point. It didn't make any difference.

The CD-ROM is in a USB port and the drive is on the SATA port (IDE3).

The strange thing is that it does boot just fine, but then does not recognize it a second time during the install process.

Oh well, I guess I need to find another method to get this installed.

73,
Mitch DJ0QN

--- In irlp@yahoogroups.com, Dave Gingrich <Dave@...> wrote:

I don't think you should disable the IDE port. Isn't your target drive connected to one of the IDE ports? I also think "local CDROM" also means IDE attached. Is there a USB CDROM option somewhere? It has been a couple of years since I did one.

I used a conventional IDE CDROM drive connected through a junky IDE to USB adapter I picked up at FRYs (a big box computer store in the states). Believe it or not, there is not a manufacturer mentioned anywhere on it, or the box. "Deluxe, 3 in 1 adapter"

You might have to ask your vendor how the heck to boot from CD on the thing. Perhaps a CD-drive to one of the IDE ports is the answer.

-k9dc

On Jan 11, 2012, at 5:54 AM, dj0qn wrote:

I am trying to (re)install my system on a new Via CN1000 board with an external CD-ROM, but am not getting very far. I am using the newest CentOS 4.8 ISO from the IRLP web site.

- I have the bios set with the boot order with the USB CD-ROM drive 1st, then the HD (now an SSD), with no further devices. I also disabled IDE 1 to be on the safe side.
- The CD-ROM boots just fine, allows me to define language and keyboard.
- Then it asks which type of media to use, and I select "local CDROM"
- It then say it is unable to find any devices of this type, even though I was already using it to install so far
- If I select the USB mass storage drive (Linux), it doesn't take that. No other drivers can be correct.

I see where Dave K9DC mentions that he has used an external CD-ROM to install IRLP many times....so what is the trick?

Thanks & 73,
Mitch DJ0QN


Re: Installing from USB CD-ROM

Dave K9DC
 

I don't think you should disable the IDE port. Isn't your target drive connected to one of the IDE ports? I also think "local CDROM" also means IDE attached. Is there a USB CDROM option somewhere? It has been a couple of years since I did one.

I used a conventional IDE CDROM drive connected through a junky IDE to USB adapter I picked up at FRYs (a big box computer store in the states). Believe it or not, there is not a manufacturer mentioned anywhere on it, or the box. "Deluxe, 3 in 1 adapter"

You might have to ask your vendor how the heck to boot from CD on the thing. Perhaps a CD-drive to one of the IDE ports is the answer.

-k9dc

On Jan 11, 2012, at 5:54 AM, dj0qn wrote:

I am trying to (re)install my system on a new Via CN1000 board with an external CD-ROM, but am not getting very far. I am using the newest CentOS 4.8 ISO from the IRLP web site.

- I have the bios set with the boot order with the USB CD-ROM drive 1st, then the HD (now an SSD), with no further devices. I also disabled IDE 1 to be on the safe side.
- The CD-ROM boots just fine, allows me to define language and keyboard.
- Then it asks which type of media to use, and I select "local CDROM"
- It then say it is unable to find any devices of this type, even though I was already using it to install so far
- If I select the USB mass storage drive (Linux), it doesn't take that. No other drivers can be correct.

I see where Dave K9DC mentions that he has used an external CD-ROM to install IRLP many times....so what is the trick?

Thanks & 73,
Mitch DJ0QN


Installing from USB CD-ROM

Mitch Wolfson
 

I am trying to (re)install my system on a new Via CN1000 board with an external CD-ROM, but am not getting very far. I am using the newest CentOS 4.8 ISO from the IRLP web site.

- I have the bios set with the boot order with the USB CD-ROM drive 1st, then the HD (now an SSD), with no further devices. I also disabled IDE 1 to be on the safe side.
- The CD-ROM boots just fine, allows me to define language and keyboard.
- Then it asks which type of media to use, and I select "local CDROM"
- It then say it is unable to find any devices of this type, even though I was already using it to install so far
- If I select the USB mass storage drive (Linux), it doesn't take that. No other drivers can be correct.

I see where Dave K9DC mentions that he has used an external CD-ROM to install IRLP many times....so what is the trick?

Thanks & 73,
Mitch DJ0QN


re node locking up

John
 

Butch et al

It's a hot muggy afternoon in North Queensland,
and I'm trying to clear the mail box.
A couple of cool ambers has/will quenched the thirst...

my chronological mind says, as Butch has pointed out..
this crashing/freezing at 4AM has only happened since he
physically transplanted his HD into another machine ie Dell.
Even tho he admits that a backup image was installed onto the HD in the Dell, it is still locking the system up at 4AM.

That alone indicated to me (and I don't bet on unknowns :))
that there is a hardware issue as daveC has suggested.

the issue I would like to address now for Butch, is backing up his Custom files.

This is the tarball cmd line in my backup_for_irlp script taken from my centos4 install.

tar -X $ID/scripts/nobackup.list --exclude=stn*.wav --exclude=ref*.wav &#92;
-cvf $ID/backup/irlp_backup.tar * .pgp*

For Butch's sake, will this save his Custom stuff, as it seems to hold some special "pine" info.

cheers all,
time to hop in the pool and replenish the schooner :)

John @ 6163


Re: node 2120

Dave K9DC
 

The web page where you download CentOS 5 has warnings against using it, unless you know for sure that 4 will not work. It is possible that 5 might work. It is simply that 5 had significant problems for many folks, that it was pushed back into the archives.

The next step for you is to fix your router, or find out why all those ports remain blocked. Your node will not work, until all of those ports are forwarded correctly and troubleshoot-irlp passes.

Once in a while troubleshoot-irlp provides a false positive, but never a false negative.

-k9dc

On Jan 10, 2012, at 11:21 PM, Richard s wrote:

the router is a new build on a pc

when I rebuilt the node I grabbed the newest OS this is why I have ver 5 on the system not 4

I shall do a shut sown and hard rest rather then a command line reboot

I guess the next thing would be to back track on the OS ..


Re: node 2120

Rick Szajkowski
 

the router is a new build on a pc

when I rebuilt the node I grabbed the newest OS this is why I have ver 5 on the system not 4

I shall do a shut sown and hard rest rather then a command line reboot

I guess the next thing would be to back track on the OS ..

--- In irlp@yahoogroups.com, Dave Gingrich <Dave@...> wrote:

Well it does say your router has a problem. You will have to fix the missing port forwards. When you set the node IP as a DMZ host, did you remove all the port forwards from the router? Perhaps they are pointed somewhere else due to old configuration information still on the router.

The DNS is less important, but it does have to work for IRLP to fully work and report correctly.

Is CentOS 5 required for your hardware?, or if you don't know, you should be using the CentOS 4 IRLP_CD_V7.06. Many times, CentOS 5 behaves badly with standard hardware. But you did not specify the hardware you are using.

Normally, connected to unknown means you are using one of experimental reflectors. But some other malfunction might cause the same indication.

-k9dc


On Jan 10, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Richard s wrote:


from the irlp status page
Current Node Status: Unknown for 0 days, 1 hours, 49 minutes, 51 seconds
troubleshhot-irlp gives me some wired errors
DNS not set corectly
ports 2074 through 2090 not forwared ( in DMZ zone)
Pots 073 8873 1000 15425 15426 15427 not forwared again in DMZ zone
Running Centos 5.7 (from the IRLP dl server)
I hope this helps figure out why this is going on


Re: node 2120

Dave K9DC
 

Well it does say your router has a problem. You will have to fix the missing port forwards. When you set the node IP as a DMZ host, did you remove all the port forwards from the router? Perhaps they are pointed somewhere else due to old configuration information still on the router.

The DNS is less important, but it does have to work for IRLP to fully work and report correctly.

Is CentOS 5 required for your hardware?, or if you don't know, you should be using the CentOS 4 IRLP_CD_V7.06. Many times, CentOS 5 behaves badly with standard hardware. But you did not specify the hardware you are using.

Normally, connected to unknown means you are using one of experimental reflectors. But some other malfunction might cause the same indication.

-k9dc

On Jan 10, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Richard s wrote:


from the irlp status page
Current Node Status: Unknown for 0 days, 1 hours, 49 minutes, 51 seconds
troubleshhot-irlp gives me some wired errors
DNS not set corectly
ports 2074 through 2090 not forwared ( in DMZ zone)
Pots 073 8873 1000 15425 15426 15427 not forwared again in DMZ zone
Running Centos 5.7 (from the IRLP dl server)
I hope this helps figure out why this is going on


Re: node 2120

jimmy keffer
 

ok i have seen the dmz on some netgear stuff not work


Re: node 2120

Rick Szajkowski
 

40 gig HD ( what command to check this)

can connect to the echo ref and get audio back

what gets me is that I am connected to something (status page)

could it be the OS ?

its just wired .. I will double check the cable to the node and re run one if I need to ..

--- In irlp@yahoogroups.com, "ve7ltd" <dcameron@...> wrote:

I am going to guess at this one, and say that your hard drive is full. If this error comes up, it means the node you are trying to call does not have a key in the keyring. If the keyring is corrupted because of lack of space, it will cause this error.

I can't think of anything else that would come up and cause that error.

After reading the email again, it sounds like it is not even connected to the internet. When you are logged in and try to run a command like:

ping irlp.net

what kind of reply do you get?

Dave Cameron



--- In irlp@yahoogroups.com, "Richard s" <va3rzs2@> wrote:

the PGP sec (key or filefile is being updated please try later

is the message I get when I try to dial out

thats after I log in and type reboot

before that every connection times out and no one can call into me ..
thought it was a router problem but node is in the DMZ right now

I did have to get a new PGP key over 6 months ago when the node went down and my back up was bad

HELP please

this is such a pain after running for years with no problems and now its one thing after another

Thanks for any and all help to get node 2120 back up and running !

Rick-va3rzs


Re: node 2120

Rick Szajkowski
 

no ddwrt on a pc .. had it on a linksys router before with no problems

--- In irlp@yahoogroups.com, jimmy keffer <horsezip@...> wrote:

are u using a netgear router?
ka3vgm


Re: node 2120

David Cameron - IRLP
 

I am going to guess at this one, and say that your hard drive is full. If this error comes up, it means the node you are trying to call does not have a key in the keyring. If the keyring is corrupted because of lack of space, it will cause this error.

I can't think of anything else that would come up and cause that error.

After reading the email again, it sounds like it is not even connected to the internet. When you are logged in and try to run a command like:

ping irlp.net

what kind of reply do you get?

Dave Cameron

--- In irlp@yahoogroups.com, "Richard s" <va3rzs2@...> wrote:

the PGP sec (key or filefile is being updated please try later

is the message I get when I try to dial out

thats after I log in and type reboot

before that every connection times out and no one can call into me ..
thought it was a router problem but node is in the DMZ right now

I did have to get a new PGP key over 6 months ago when the node went down and my back up was bad

HELP please

this is such a pain after running for years with no problems and now its one thing after another

Thanks for any and all help to get node 2120 back up and running !

Rick-va3rzs


NBEMS Training via IRLP

Bob W AB0BW
 

To all IRLP group members,
I'm happy to announce that there is a NBEMS digital net in Southeast Minnesota...every Thursday night starting at 8:00pm cst...
At 8pm we use HF on 80 meters...but then we switch to a local repeater frequency for VHF at 9:00pm cst...
Last week we tried to connect an IRLP reflector to the repeater...the connection was fine but there was nobody else on the reflector...
We will be connected to IRLP reflector 9627 beginning at 9pm this Thursday...
Generally, we use fldigi software using MT-63 16/500 mode...
This mode is very robust...some operators just use a handheld radio and the sound card of their computer...works well...
Any and all are welcome to try out your digital setup and skills...and check into the net...
Hope to see you on the waterfall Thursday night...
--Bob--  AB0BW


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: RE node locking up

Butch Bussen
 

As another note, I did not have this problem on the old system. Only trouble I had was if it went off for any reason, I couldn't get the machine to reboot. I tried another drive and finally concluded it was a motherboard problem, that is why I switched machines.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2012, Butch Bussen wrote:

Sorry, I don't recall the error exactly. No help, I know.... As I
recall, as it was read to me, said invallid boot option and then 00
00/1b0. I should have had my cousin write it down exactly but he was in
a hurry and I figured if I restored an image, things would be o.k.
Image was from old system, so yes, I may have just restored the error.
Is there any way I can log this or run it over the network so I can tell
what is going on?
Thanks.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Wed, 11 Jan 2012, John wrote:

Butch wrote

I tried scandisk and I don't know what happened, but the machine
wouldn't boot back up. When I had my cousin look at the monitor I got
an invalid boot option error and some numbers which I don't recall.
Anyhow, I restored an image and everything is working fine except for
the lock up. I've determined it is something run in a cron somewhere.
My time and date are set correct, and the machine locks up at around 4
o'clock every morning. This morning, at 3 til, it was fine and when I
again checked at five past 4, it was nonresponsive. Where can I look to
see what is causing this?

--->>>
Need to know what scandisk reports. Can "shutdown -F -r now"
be told to write a log file..DaveC & DaveG ??
WHAT was that 'invalid boot option error' ?
Which image did you restore? The one from the old machine?
That would have had incorrect data, including any cron job errors.

"I can't log in once it locks up. It isn't seen on the network, nor does
it respond to dtmf codes. All I can do is power down and reboot."

-->>>
These are the same symptoms I had with a flaky HD 2 years ago.

73 John
6163


Re: RE node locking up

Butch Bussen
 

I sometimes do sleep through it, but it doesn't come back on unless I go do a hard reset.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2012, Phillip Nichols wrote:

My time and date are set correct, and the machine locks up at around 4
o'clock every morning. This morning, at 3 til, it was fine and when I
again checked at five past 4, it was nonresponsive.
Maybe a newbie question can help ;-)

Isn't that the time the node is supposed to shutdown and update. Then
comes back on 1 hour later?

Honestly, I dont even think about my node at 4am! Maybe you should sleep
through it instead <grin>.

73/Phillip/N8AYE
-. ---.. .- -.-- .
node: 3538

John said the following on 1/10/2012 4:19 PM:


Butch wrote

I tried scandisk and I don't know what happened, but the machine
wouldn't boot back up. When I had my cousin look at the monitor I got
an invalid boot option error and some numbers which I don't recall.
Anyhow, I restored an image and everything is working fine except for
the lock up. I've determined it is something run in a cron somewhere.
My time and date are set correct, and the machine locks up at around 4
o'clock every morning. This morning, at 3 til, it was fine and when I
again checked at five past 4, it was nonresponsive. Where can I look to
see what is causing this?

--->>>





Re: node 2120

jimmy keffer
 

are u using a netgear router?
ka3vgm


Re: RE node locking up

Butch Bussen
 

Sorry, I don't recall the error exactly. No help, I know.... As I recall, as it was read to me, said invallid boot option and then 00 00/1b0. I should have had my cousin write it down exactly but he was in a hurry and I figured if I restored an image, things would be o.k. Image was from old system, so yes, I may have just restored the error. Is there any way I can log this or run it over the network so I can tell what is going on?
Thanks.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.

On Wed, 11 Jan 2012, John wrote:

Butch wrote

I tried scandisk and I don't know what happened, but the machine
wouldn't boot back up. When I had my cousin look at the monitor I got
an invalid boot option error and some numbers which I don't recall.
Anyhow, I restored an image and everything is working fine except for
the lock up. I've determined it is something run in a cron somewhere.
My time and date are set correct, and the machine locks up at around 4
o'clock every morning. This morning, at 3 til, it was fine and when I
again checked at five past 4, it was nonresponsive. Where can I look to
see what is causing this?

--->>>
Need to know what scandisk reports. Can "shutdown -F -r now"
be told to write a log file..DaveC & DaveG ??
WHAT was that 'invalid boot option error' ?
Which image did you restore? The one from the old machine?
That would have had incorrect data, including any cron job errors.

"I can't log in once it locks up. It isn't seen on the network, nor does
it respond to dtmf codes. All I can do is power down and reboot."

-->>>
These are the same symptoms I had with a flaky HD 2 years ago.

73 John
6163


Re: node 2120

Rick Szajkowski
 

from the irlp status page

Current Node Status: Unknown for 0 days, 1 hours, 49 minutes, 51 seconds


troubleshhot-irlp gives me some wired errors

DNS not set corectly

ports 2074 through 2090 not forwared ( in DMZ zone)
Pots 073 8873 1000 15425 15426 15427 not forwared again in DMZ zone

Running Centos 5.7 (from the IRLP dl server)

I hope this helps figure out why this is going on

Rick-va4rzs

--- In irlp@yahoogroups.com, Dave Gingrich <Dave@...> wrote:

Did you run troubleshoot-irlp? If not, do that and tell us what it reports.

su - repeater
troubleshoot-irlp

-k9dc

On Jan 10, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Richard s wrote:

the PGP sec (key or filefile is being updated please try later

is the message I get when I try to dial out

thats after I log in and type reboot

before that every connection times out and no one can call into me ..
thought it was a router problem but node is in the DMZ right now

I did have to get a new PGP key over 6 months ago when the node went down and my back up was bad

HELP please

this is such a pain after running for years with no problems and now its one thing after another

Thanks for any and all help to get node 2120 back up and running !

Rick-va3rzs


Re: RE node locking up

Phillip Nichols <scotchmandr@...>
 

My time and date are set correct, and the machine locks up at around 4
>> o'clock every morning. This morning, at 3 til, it was fine and when I
>> again checked at five past 4, it was nonresponsive.

Maybe a newbie question can help ;-)

Isn't that the time the node is supposed to shutdown and update. Then
comes back on 1 hour later?

Honestly, I dont even think about my node at 4am! Maybe you should sleep
through it instead <grin>.

73/Phillip/N8AYE
-. ---.. .- -.-- .
node: 3538

John said the following on 1/10/2012 4:19 PM:


Butch wrote

I tried scandisk and I don't know what happened, but the machine
wouldn't boot back up. When I had my cousin look at the monitor I got
an invalid boot option error and some numbers which I don't recall.
Anyhow, I restored an image and everything is working fine except for
the lock up. I've determined it is something run in a cron somewhere.
My time and date are set correct, and the machine locks up at around 4
o'clock every morning. This morning, at 3 til, it was fine and when I
again checked at five past 4, it was nonresponsive. Where can I look to
see what is causing this?

--->>>



RE node locking up

John
 

Butch wrote

I tried scandisk and I don't know what happened, but the machine
wouldn't boot back up. When I had my cousin look at the monitor I got
an invalid boot option error and some numbers which I don't recall.
Anyhow, I restored an image and everything is working fine except for
the lock up. I've determined it is something run in a cron somewhere.
My time and date are set correct, and the machine locks up at around 4
o'clock every morning. This morning, at 3 til, it was fine and when I
again checked at five past 4, it was nonresponsive. Where can I look to
see what is causing this?

--->>>
Need to know what scandisk reports. Can "shutdown -F -r now"
be told to write a log file..DaveC & DaveG ??
WHAT was that 'invalid boot option error' ?
Which image did you restore? The one from the old machine?
That would have had incorrect data, including any cron job errors.

"I can't log in once it locks up. It isn't seen on the network, nor does
it respond to dtmf codes. All I can do is power down and reboot."

-->>>
These are the same symptoms I had with a flaky HD 2 years ago.

73 John
6163


Re: node locking up

David Cameron - IRLP
 

I can have a look, but I can guarantee that if the crash is not related to an IRLP script. If it was, it would have hung up many other systems as well.

Send me the login info directly to dcameron@irlp.net

Thanks

Dave

--- In irlp@yahoogroups.com, Butch Bussen <butchb@...> wrote:

Yes, this is the drive I transplanted as the other pc wouldn't boot. I
can do that eventually, but will have to get sighted help and I'll lose
a lot of custom stuff I have such as pine. I was hoping someone could
take a look and see what program is crashing the system as it is the
exact same time each day.

Thanks.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


BTW, it is fc3 if that matters.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2012, ve7ltd wrote:

Is this the drive you took from another PC and transplanted?

I would suggest that there is something with this hardware that the configuration from the old PC does not like. In theory, this should work, but not always.

I think your best course of action is to create a backup of your node, and reinstall fresh with CentOS 4 on this PC.

Dave

--- In irlp@yahoogroups.com, Butch Bussen <butchb@> wrote:

As I mentioned before, when it locks up, I have no access over the
network. It locked up again at four again this morning. Here is from
my messages file. Aparently when it locks up, doesn't write anything to
messages.

Any help or suggestions appreciated. If someone wants to take a look, I
can send password and port. Here is from my messages file.

Jan 9 22:13:24 localhost sysctl: kernel.sysrq = 0
Jan 9 22:13:24 localhost sysctl: kernel.core_uses_pid = 1
Jan 9 22:13:24 localhost rc.sysinit: Configuring kernel parameters:
succeeded
Jan 10 05:13:24 localhost date: Tue Jan 10 05:13:24 MST 2012
Jan 10 05:13:24 localhost rc.sysinit: Setting clock (localtime): Tue
Jan 10 05:13:24 MST 2012 succeeded
Jan 10 05:13:24 localhost rc.sysinit: Loading default keymap succeeded
Jan 10 05:13:24 localhost rc.sysinit: Setting hostname
localhost.localdomain: succeeded

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On
Mon, 9 Jan
2012, ve7ltd wrote:

Since the computer seems to be sort of "soft locking" (you can still communicate with it through the network), it may be logging the problems in

/var/log/messages

The contents of the folder

/etc/cron.daily/

are also run around that time every day.

Dave

--- In irlp@yahoogroups.com, Butch Bussen <butchb@> wrote:

I tried scandisk and I don't know what happened, but the machine
wouldn't boot back up. When I had my cousin look at the monitor I got
an invalid boot option error and some numbers which I don't recall.
Anyhow, I restored an image and everything is working fine except for
the lock up. I've determined it is something run in a cron somewhere.
My time and date are set correct, and the machine locks up at around 4
o'clock every morning. This morning, at 3 til, it was fine and when I
again checked at five past 4, it was nonresponsive. Where can I look to
see what is causing this?

Thanks.

73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Fri, 6 Jan 2012, John wrote:


Thinking outside the square here Butch,
as I often do when wanting a simple answer..:)

1. Wondering if the Dell has "hibernate" active.
2. I once had a sick HD on my IRLP node and found it
by running 'shutdown -F -r now' (-F = scandisk on reboot -case sensitive)
3. It may also pay to scan the RAM, but I can't locate the command right now.

Goodluck

73 John
6163


On 05-Jan-12 9:25:22 PM, Butch Bussen (butchb@ wrote:
I moved my node to another computer as the old one
wouldn't boot most of
the time. I moved the hard drive, irlp board and sound card. The new
computer is a Del desktop, I forget the model. Everything seems to work
find except every night my node stops responding. I get no response from
touch tone commands, and although I can connect via my terminal program, I
don't
get a login prompt.
I'm thinking this has something to do with the
update that is sent out each night, as the node quits about the same time
in the early morning.As I recall an update is sent out around four
mountain time. This morning at ten til 4 mountain time, node was fine. I
checked again at ten after four and it is locked up again. If I reboot,
it comes back fine. Am I on the right track? What do I look for? I'm
running fc3 and until my computer switch, have had no problems for many
years.


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