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PS: Re: [IRLP] Debian boot up

John
 

Opps my bad, I see the OS has booted..

Which Graphics have you set the system to use?

Per PDF file - dn2800mt_techprodspec09.pdf
It quotes:
Graphics • Integrated graphics:
― Digital displays (High Definition Multimedia Interface* (HDMI*))
― Analog displays (VGA)
― Internal flat panel displays:
 LVDS
 eDP (Embedded DisplayPort*)
• External graphics:
― One PCI Express 1.0a x1 graphics add-in card connector

John


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: [IRLP] Debian boot up
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2019 10:14:29 +1000
From: John <gielisj@...>
To: IRLP <IRLP@irlp.groups.io>

Change the first boot device to CD

John @ 6163

On 8/12/2019 9:58:04 AM, Phil Zocco (n1bow@...) wrote:
Greetings.
So this afternoon, I got that last of the parts I needed to build a new computer for Node 5960.
Trying to use the USB drive to boot up did not work so I pulled a CD-ROM out of one of my PCs and got the 12.07 version to boot up via CD.
Once done, I went into the BIOS of the DN2800MT motherboard and set up the first boot device, a PNY 120G SSD.
Upon booting up, I get the blue screen showing the Debian OS ready to auto-load and it does.
I get 2 scrolling lines and then....nothing. The monitor goes off due to lack of video signal.
Not too sure what I am missing. If there is something in the DN2800MT BIOS that I am not setting right, info would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
73,
Phil N1BOW
Nodes 5960 and 4656
AMT MP 113.6
Niantic, CT USA Earth

Re: Debian boot up

John
 

Change the first boot device to CD

John @ 6163

On 8/12/2019 9:58:04 AM, Phil Zocco (n1bow@...) wrote:
Greetings.
So this afternoon, I got that last of the parts I needed to build a new computer for Node 5960.
Trying to use the USB drive to boot up did not work so I pulled a CD-ROM out of one of my PCs and got the 12.07 version to boot up via CD.
Once done, I went into the BIOS of the DN2800MT motherboard and set up the first boot device, a PNY 120G SSD.
Upon booting up, I get the blue screen showing the Debian OS ready to auto-load and it does.
I get 2 scrolling lines and then....nothing. The monitor goes off due to lack of video signal.
Not too sure what I am missing. If there is something in the DN2800MT BIOS that I am not setting right, info would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
73,
Phil N1BOW
Nodes 5960 and 4656
AMT MP 113.6
Niantic, CT USA Earth

Re: Debian boot up

Rick NK7I
 

I don’t recall the particulars but there is a line that must be added to the start up sequence to force the video to the other video port.

Or log in via SSH.

Rick NK7I
7962

Smell Czech corruptions are inevitable

On Dec 7, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Phil Zocco <n1bow@...> wrote:

Greetings.

So this afternoon, I got that last of the parts I needed to build a new computer for Node 5960.

Trying to use the USB drive to boot up did not work so I pulled a CD-ROM out of one of my PCs and got the 12.07 version to boot up via CD.

Once done, I went into the BIOS of the DN2800MT motherboard and set up the first boot device, a PNY 120G SSD.

Upon booting up, I get the blue screen showing the Debian OS ready to auto-load and it does.

I get 2 scrolling lines and then....nothing. The monitor goes off due to lack of video signal.

Not too sure what I am missing. If there is something in the DN2800MT BIOS that I am not setting right, info would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


73,

Phil N1BOW
Nodes 5960 and 4656
AMT MP 113.6
Niantic, CT USA Earth



Debian boot up

Phil Zocco
 

Greetings.

So this afternoon, I got that last of the parts I needed to build a new computer for Node 5960.

Trying to use the USB drive to boot up did not work so I pulled a CD-ROM out of one of my PCs and got the 12.07 version to boot up via CD.

Once done, I went into the BIOS of the DN2800MT motherboard and set up the first boot device, a PNY 120G SSD.

Upon booting up, I get the blue screen showing the Debian OS ready to auto-load and it does.

I get 2 scrolling lines and then....nothing. The monitor goes off due to lack of video signal.

Not too sure what I am missing. If there is something in the DN2800MT BIOS that I am not setting right, info would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


73,

Phil N1BOW
Nodes 5960 and 4656
AMT MP 113.6
Niantic, CT USA Earth

Re: ActionTech T3200

David Cameron - IRLP
 

What devices are between your node and the ISP? Is the T3200 a DSL or fibre modem and is it connected directly? I am wondering if your ISP is not giving you a real IP address, or if there are two routers involved. In the status screen of the T3200, what is your WAN IP address?

Telus (the ISP here in British Columbia and Alberta) provides the T3200, but I actually bypassed it and used my own router. There is a mode called "port 1 bridge" that allows you to put your own router onto Port 1 of the T3200 and it creates a bridge.

Dave Cameron

On 07/12/2019 10:00 a.m., dale.tongue wrote:
Good morning.  I have relocated a node from Korea back to the US.  In trying to get port forwarding or DMZ to function on the new network, I can make changes and I can see the changes in the modem, but the port forwarding don't seem to take.
  I am looking for anyone that has experience in the T3200 that I can communicate with to see what might be the issue. Reading I've done seem to lead me to the conclusion that there may be additional logins that may need to be logged into, in order to get to those additional features.  This may or may not be the case.
  Any help, would be greatly appreciated.  It's not like I haven't done this before....but this particular modem doesn't seem to be responding like others I have modified.
Dale Tongue
AC7NP
HL1ZCQ

Re: ActionTech T3200

Milt Duquette
 

ActionTech T3200 telus modem, put it into bridge mode and add your oun router . Now there will be a new ip for the router then you can open up the required modes.
I had to do that before


Milt. VE6MLD

On Dec 7, 2019, at 11:00 AM, dale.tongue <dale.tongue@...> wrote:

Good morning.  I have relocated a node from Korea back to the US.  In trying to get port forwarding or DMZ to function on the new network, I can make changes and I can see the changes in the modem, but the port forwarding don't seem to take.
  I am looking for anyone that has experience in the T3200 that I can communicate with to see what might be the issue.  Reading I've done seem to lead me to the conclusion that there may be additional logins that may need to be logged into, in order to get to those additional features.  This may or may not be the case.
  Any help, would be greatly appreciated.  It's not like I haven't done this before....but this particular modem doesn't seem to be responding like others I have modified.
Dale Tongue
AC7NP
HL1ZCQ


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Re: ActionTech T3200

Rick NK7I
 

Try rebooting the mode/router after making (all) the changes in routing (setting DMZ included).  Some/most routers don't 'activate' the route paths (or IP reservations) until a restart.

Then run the troubleshoot script to see what else may be needed.

Welcome back to the US.

GL,
Rick NK7I


On 12/7/2019 10:00 AM, dale.tongue wrote:
Good morning.  I have relocated a node from Korea back to the US.  In trying to get port forwarding or DMZ to function on the new network, I can make changes and I can see the changes in the modem, but the port forwarding don't seem to take.
  I am looking for anyone that has experience in the T3200 that I can communicate with to see what might be the issue.  Reading I've done seem to lead me to the conclusion that there may be additional logins that may need to be logged into, in order to get to those additional features.  This may or may not be the case.
  Any help, would be greatly appreciated.  It's not like I haven't done this before....but this particular modem doesn't seem to be responding like others I have modified.
Dale Tongue
AC7NP
HL1ZCQ

ActionTech T3200

dale.tongue
 

Good morning.  I have relocated a node from Korea back to the US.  In trying to get port forwarding or DMZ to function on the new network, I can make changes and I can see the changes in the modem, but the port forwarding don't seem to take.
  I am looking for anyone that has experience in the T3200 that I can communicate with to see what might be the issue.  Reading I've done seem to lead me to the conclusion that there may be additional logins that may need to be logged into, in order to get to those additional features.  This may or may not be the case.
  Any help, would be greatly appreciated.  It's not like I haven't done this before....but this particular modem doesn't seem to be responding like others I have modified.
Dale Tongue
AC7NP
HL1ZCQ

Re: Node Update/Upgrade

Nosey Nick VA3NNW
 

Not sure anyone answered this... Teton Amateur Radio Repeater
Association (TARRA) wrote:
Without a whole lot of trouble, can it be set up to copy the whole
IRLP program (and OS) to ram on start up and then just copy the files
that have been changed back to the SD card before shut down? Probably
a good idea to copy the log files to the SD card on a regular basis
while it running just to keep from losing them. There may be some
other files that need saved as well, but not sure which ones they
would be. Just trying to move operations away from running on the SD
card so much.
sdcard READS are not a problem, and will quickly be cached in RAM for
aaaaaaages after the first read anyway.

(That said, some filesystems also WRITE a "last accessed" date each time
you READ a file, but I see my own pirlp node has deliberately disabled
this with a "noatime" mount option, I think I have to assume that's the
default, feel free to check /etc/fstab for "[some device] /  ext4 
defaults,noatime")

sdcard WRITES can be a problem. Especially if you have a really old
sdcard that doesn't do wear-levelling (hard to find these days), and/or
if you have a swapfile on the sdcard (irlp doesn't) or something else
that's written A LOT, perhaps a frequently-sync'd database? I doubt it's
a problem, and 4GB (or bigger) sdcards are so cheap they pretty much
give 'em away with your breakfast cereal... but if you wanna find out:

sudo apt-get install inotify-tools
sudo inotifywait -e modify -mr /var/log ~repeater/
# feel free to add any other paths you think might be likely to have
writes, but "/" is probably too many files to watch, so be sensible.

The above will (install a tool to, and then) show you each time a file
is modified.

If you're honestly still worried, look up "Linux Overlay Filesystem"
and/or see https://yagrebu.net/unix/rpi-overlay.md for a real rpi
example. The important parts in the script are:

[arranging for your "real root" to be on /lower and then...]
mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /upper ;  mkdir /upper/data /upper/work
mount -t overlay
-olowerdir=/lower,upperdir=/upper/data,workdir=/upper/work overlay
${rootmnt}

This makes a RAM drive for a "top layer" to be mounted over the top of
your root filesystem. WRITES go to the top layer (IE the tmpfs in RAM),
READS (of files that aren't in the top layer) will pass through
(although will, as above, be cached for aaaaages after the first read).

I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader what files you want to keep,
how, and how often, but you should be able to see your changes written
to /upper/data/ and you'll want to get them into the right place in
/lower/, except /lower/ is (by design) mounted read-only and will need
to be made writeable just before you want to write to it. You'll also
have to think a bit about how to update your system (apt-get update ;
apt-get upgrade ; etc) if THOSE (infrequent but big) writes are now all
going to go to RAM.

Personally, I'm slightly surprised to find my /tmp/ isn't in tmpfs (WAT?
might fix that) and my /var/log/auth.log is hit a BIT more often than I
expected by (unsuccessful) SSH dictionary-attackers, but not enough that
I'd worry about the inconvenience of the overlayfs stuff.

Nick

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Re: Updating OS

k9dc
 

Mick,

Try looking through the Wiki. It has the most complete explanation of the procedure. http://wiki.irlp.net/

On Dec 6, 2019, at 14:25, Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA) <tarra@...> wrote:

Hello Group,

This weekend I hope to be updating my node to the newest and greatest. I will be using a Pi 4B. I have run the backup script and have a backup saved. I have looked all over the web site and still not completely sure that I know what I am supposed to do. Do I image Debian 10 on an SD card and get the Pi running and then run the IRLP script? Or is there an ISO that I run and just go with it? Not finding any clear instructions on doing this. In the near future I will also be helping a friend with a new install so I need to find out what I need for that as well.

Mick - W7CAT
Node 3464

Updating OS

Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA)
 

Hello Group,

This weekend I hope to be updating my node to the newest and greatest. I will be using a Pi 4B. I have run the backup script and have a backup saved. I have looked all over the web site and still not completely sure that I know what I am supposed to do. Do I image Debian 10 on an SD card and get the Pi running and then run the IRLP script? Or is there an ISO that I run and just go with it? Not finding any clear instructions on doing this. In the near future I will also be helping a friend with a new install so I need to find out what I need for that as well.

Mick - W7CAT
Node 3464

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Re: Dual Wan Router

k9dc
 

I also agree with Dave, load sharing will not work well. While the VPN usually survives most IP changes, it does expect reasonable stability with the connection. I would only use the dual wan setup in a failover configuration.

-k9dc

On Dec 5, 2019, at 17:24, k9dc <Dave@...> wrote:


This also could be a case where IRLP VPN might help.

First of all, each node would be uniquely IP addressed (VPN on both), so no port forwarding would be required at all, any number of nodes can use the same WAN connection. If your node is running Debian 9 or 10, the VPN will usually survive a change in the underlying IP address, so your failover scenario should work with nearly no interruption.

I use that setup myself. I have gigabit fiber service with a cellular router as backup. If the fiber fails, it instantly switches over to the cellular connection. Two of my nodes are running Debian 9, they always survive the flip to backup. I also have a lab node which is a nanonode. Unfortunately the nano nodes run Debian 7, which requires a reboot if the Internet ever drops.

IRLP VPN might help you out. https://irlp.groups.io/g/IRLP/files/IRLP%20VPN%20Service

-k9dc

On Dec 5, 2019, at 16:48, David Cameron - IRLP <dcameron@...> wrote:

A dual wan router set up for load balancing will NOT work with IRLP. The issue is that the source IP of the packets keeps changing. When that happens your node will stop working on the current call, and will not be able to be called. Plus it puts a huge strain on the dynamic IP system as the servers have to keep updating your IP as it flops between the two WANs.

You need to set up one on one WAN and two on the other. If you have multiple connections, just add a switch to both before feeding the dual WAN system. Then you don't need port forwarding - just assign the nodes specific static IPs on one WAN or the other.

Dave Cameron

On 2019-12-05 13:30, Bob Hess via Groups.Io wrote:
I host two different Wireless ISP's on my towers at the house. As a
result, I have multiple WAN IP addresses and host three nodes here.
I recent got a Ubiquity dual-WAN router. I have the Ubiquity router
set up for load-sharing. The other option is fail-over. With load
sharing, I have increased bandwidth and seamless redundancy. With the
understanding that I am not a networking guru, I have two questions:
1 - I can set up port-forwarding in the router for each WAN. If I
operate a node on the LAN, can I use the same port-forwarding criteria
on each WAN to achieve redundancy should one WAN fail?
- OR -
2 - Can I operate two nodes on the LAN, assuming each node has a
unique static IP, with the port-forwarding set up such that WAN A
points to Node 1 and WAN B points to node 2?
Hope this makes sense. Thanks in advance for any responses.
Bob
W1RH

Re: Dual Wan Router

Bob Hess
 

Thanks for the quick response gentlemen.

Bob
W1RH

Re: Dual Wan Router

k9dc
 

This also could be a case where IRLP VPN might help.

First of all, each node would be uniquely IP addressed (VPN on both), so no port forwarding would be required at all, any number of nodes can use the same WAN connection. If your node is running Debian 9 or 10, the VPN will usually survive a change in the underlying IP address, so your failover scenario should work with nearly no interruption.

I use that setup myself. I have gigabit fiber service with a cellular router as backup. If the fiber fails, it instantly switches over to the cellular connection. Two of my nodes are running Debian 9, they always survive the flip to backup. I also have a lab node which is a nanonode. Unfortunately the nano nodes run Debian 7, which requires a reboot if the Internet ever drops.

IRLP VPN might help you out. https://irlp.groups.io/g/IRLP/files/IRLP%20VPN%20Service

-k9dc

On Dec 5, 2019, at 16:48, David Cameron - IRLP <dcameron@...> wrote:

A dual wan router set up for load balancing will NOT work with IRLP. The issue is that the source IP of the packets keeps changing. When that happens your node will stop working on the current call, and will not be able to be called. Plus it puts a huge strain on the dynamic IP system as the servers have to keep updating your IP as it flops between the two WANs.

You need to set up one on one WAN and two on the other. If you have multiple connections, just add a switch to both before feeding the dual WAN system. Then you don't need port forwarding - just assign the nodes specific static IPs on one WAN or the other.

Dave Cameron

On 2019-12-05 13:30, Bob Hess via Groups.Io wrote:
I host two different Wireless ISP's on my towers at the house. As a
result, I have multiple WAN IP addresses and host three nodes here.
I recent got a Ubiquity dual-WAN router. I have the Ubiquity router
set up for load-sharing. The other option is fail-over. With load
sharing, I have increased bandwidth and seamless redundancy. With the
understanding that I am not a networking guru, I have two questions:
1 - I can set up port-forwarding in the router for each WAN. If I
operate a node on the LAN, can I use the same port-forwarding criteria
on each WAN to achieve redundancy should one WAN fail?
- OR -
2 - Can I operate two nodes on the LAN, assuming each node has a
unique static IP, with the port-forwarding set up such that WAN A
points to Node 1 and WAN B points to node 2?
Hope this makes sense. Thanks in advance for any responses.
Bob
W1RH

Re: Dual Wan Router

David Cameron - IRLP
 

A dual wan router set up for load balancing will NOT work with IRLP. The issue is that the source IP of the packets keeps changing. When that happens your node will stop working on the current call, and will not be able to be called. Plus it puts a huge strain on the dynamic IP system as the servers have to keep updating your IP as it flops between the two WANs.

You need to set up one on one WAN and two on the other. If you have multiple connections, just add a switch to both before feeding the dual WAN system. Then you don't need port forwarding - just assign the nodes specific static IPs on one WAN or the other.

Dave Cameron

On 2019-12-05 13:30, Bob Hess via Groups.Io wrote:
I host two different Wireless ISP's on my towers at the house. As a
result, I have multiple WAN IP addresses and host three nodes here.
I recent got a Ubiquity dual-WAN router. I have the Ubiquity router
set up for load-sharing. The other option is fail-over. With load
sharing, I have increased bandwidth and seamless redundancy. With the
understanding that I am not a networking guru, I have two questions:
1 - I can set up port-forwarding in the router for each WAN. If I
operate a node on the LAN, can I use the same port-forwarding criteria
on each WAN to achieve redundancy should one WAN fail?
- OR -
2 - Can I operate two nodes on the LAN, assuming each node has a
unique static IP, with the port-forwarding set up such that WAN A
points to Node 1 and WAN B points to node 2?
Hope this makes sense. Thanks in advance for any responses.
Bob
W1RH
Links:
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[1] https://irlp.groups.io/g/IRLP/message/76370
[2] https://groups.io/mt/67221548/500965
[3] https://irlp.groups.io/g/IRLP/post
[4] https://irlp.groups.io/g/IRLP/editsub/500965
[5] https://irlp.groups.io/g/IRLP/leave/defanged

Dual Wan Router

Bob Hess
 

I host two different Wireless ISP's on my towers at the house.  As a result, I have multiple WAN IP addresses and host three nodes here.

I recent got a Ubiquity dual-WAN router.  I have the Ubiquity router set up for load-sharing.  The other option is fail-over.  With load sharing, I have increased bandwidth and seamless redundancy.  With the understanding that I am not a networking guru, I have two questions:

1 - I can set up port-forwarding in the router for each WAN.  If I operate a node on the LAN, can I use the same port-forwarding criteria on each WAN to achieve redundancy should one WAN fail?

 - OR - 

2 - Can I operate two nodes on the LAN, assuming each node has a unique static IP, with the port-forwarding set up such that WAN A points to Node 1 and WAN B points to node 2?

Hope this makes sense.  Thanks in advance for any responses.

Bob
W1RH

Re: Node Update/Upgrade

k9dc
 


Amazon maybe?  they have everything

-k9dc

On Dec 5, 2019, at 11:40, Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA) <tarra@...> wrote:



Looking for a good source for some 8 GB ”Industrial Grade” single level cell SD cards.

Mick - W7CAT
Node 3464

Re: Node Update/Upgrade

Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA)
 

Looking for a good source for some 8 GB ”Industrial Grade” single level cell SD cards.

Mick - W7CAT
Node 3464

----- Original Message -----
From: k9dc
To: IRLP@irlp.groups.io
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2019 06:04:56 AM
Subject: Re: [IRLP] Node Update/Upgrade

>
> Mick,
>
> DaveC used to do that with early generations of his embedded node, years ago when flash was very expensive. But with improvements in high availability (reliable) flash, he no longer does that. If you equip the Pi with high reliable flash (or SSD) you should be fine. Look for SLC (single level cell) flash. It sometimes is called ”Industrial Grade” and is spec’d to operate down to -40º.
>
> Any RAM beyond 512 MB, is completely wasted if you are only running IRLP on the computer. I would skip the 4GB, save a few $$ and buy high quality flash instead. Then you have reduced the need to create a run from RAM configuration and can stay with a straight up IRLP installation.
>
> I am still not a big fan of the Raspberry Pi for locations where reliability is very important, such as repeater sites with difficult physical access. But the Pi4 is way better than earlier models and is actually pretty impressive from a pure performance perspective. Solid 5V power and cabling is very critical.
>
> -k9dc
>
> > On Nov 30, 2019, at 22:44, Teton Amateur Radio Repeater Association (TARRA) wrote:
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > While I am thinking about updating my node software, I am also thinking of upgrading my hardware. With the new Raspberry Pi4 that has 4 gigs of ram, I am wondering . . . Without a whole lot of trouble, can it be set up to copy the whole IRLP program (and OS) to ram on start up and then just copy the files that have been changed back to the SD card before shut down? Probably a good idea to copy the log files to the SD card on a regular basis while it running just to keep from losing them. There may be some other files that need saved as well, but not sure which ones they would be. Just trying to move operations away from running on the SD card so much.
> >
> > Mick - W7CAT
> > Node 3464
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: PS: [IRLP] IRLP OS and USB Drive

Rick NK7I
 

I used a stand alone CD-ROM, connected to and powered by the USB, simple and quick.  Cost minimal.

Rick NK7I

On 12/4/2019 8:04 AM, Phil Zocco wrote:

Dave C,

 

The actual OS will be installed on a solid state drive for node 5960. I am using the USB drive only to boot up and get things going.

 

Not sure if I misstated my intentions. I was just trying to start the install using a USB drive instead of a SATA CD-ROM. That would entail pulling a drive out of one of my Windows PCs.

 

Thanks and 73,

 

Phil N1BOW

 

From: IRLP@irlp.groups.io [mailto:IRLP@irlp.groups.io] On Behalf Of bruce clements
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 11:09 PM
To: IRLP@irlp.groups.io
Subject: Re: PS: [IRLP] IRLP OS and USB Drive

 

Thanks Dave.

 

The usb stick is now on the shelf as a emergency backup..now using the ide flash module and I'm going to make another one and put it on the shelf as well.

 

Thanks for the info

 

Bruce Ve3bv 

2226

 

 

 

Sent from my Galaxy Tab® E

 

-------- Original message --------

From: David Cameron - IRLP <dcameron@...>

Date: 2019-12-03 10:58 PM (GMT-05:00)

Subject: Re: PS: [IRLP] IRLP OS and USB Drive

 

Rufus will not work on some systems. The concept of using win32diskimager is new. Read up on isohybrid for more information. It will only work on the latest debian 10 iso.

 

I caution against installing the actual OS onto a USB based disk drive, unless it is a USB 3 port and you have a UPS. They will work ok until your first or second power outage. 

 

Dave Cameron 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: bruce clements <ve3bv.ca@...>

Date: 12/3/19 4:29 PM (GMT-08:00)

Subject: Re: PS: [IRLP] IRLP OS and USB Drive

 

I used FAT 32 on my usb stick..I used  Rufus to copy the install file to the stick.

I downloaded the file onto my desktop , then used Rufus to put it on a bootable stick.

 

I've never used the win32diskImager , so maybe Dave or someone else can let you know.

 

Bruce Ve3bv 

2226

 

 

 

Sent from my Galaxy Tab® E

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Phil Zocco <n1bow@...>

Date: 2019-12-03 7:19 PM (GMT-05:00)

Subject: Re: PS: [IRLP] IRLP OS and USB Drive

 

BTW, do you format the USB drive as FAT 32 or NTFS even though it will hold a Linux OS?

 

From: IRLP@irlp.groups.io [mailto:IRLP@irlp.groups.io] On Behalf Of Phil Zocco
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 6:50 PM
To: IRLP@irlp.groups.io
Subject: Re: PS: [IRLP] IRLP OS and USB Drive

 

Thanks to all for the replies.

 

To Dave C: O was looking for software to image directly to a USB stick and now I know what to look for.

 

73,

 

Phil N1BOW

 

From: IRLP@irlp.groups.io [mailto:IRLP@irlp.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Cameron - IRLP
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 6:43 PM
To: IRLP@irlp.groups.io
Subject: Re: PS: [IRLP] IRLP OS and USB Drive

 

Actually, with the latest ISO image you can write the iso image directly to a USB stick using win32diskImager, the same way you would image an SD card for a raspberry pi. 

 

David Cameron 

 

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: John <gielisj@...>

Date: 12/3/19 3:29 PM (GMT-08:00)

Subject: PS: [IRLP] IRLP OS and USB Drive

 

Also, I doubt whether you can copy, verbatim, the content of a ISO CD to a USB
stick, and expect IT to boot.

I will stand corrected !! :)

John

On 4/12/2019 9:25 am, John wrote:
> Hi Phil,
>
> I would suggest checking the BIOS on that MB to see it it allows a USB port to
> be bootable.
>
> 73 John@6163
>
>> On 4/12/2019 9:10:20 AM, Phil Zocco (n1bow@...) wrote:
>> > Greetings, IRLPers.
>>
>> I am in the process of updating node 5960 to a DN2800MT motherboard and an
>> SSD. I was able to find a board complete with 4G of memory on ebay.
>>
>> I have also been able to burn the ISO image Version 12.07 to a CD.
>> The only thing is in that clearing out my box of PC junk, I threw away my old
>> CD-ROMs.
>>
>> Then I noticed that the MB has no IDE port but it as a number of USB ports.
>> And the MB has SATA ports so using a PNY 120G SSD should work.
>>
>> My question is this: once I have burned the image to a CD, can I simply copy
>> all of the files from the CD to a USB drive and use that to install the IRLP
>> OS? IOW, will the USB drive be bootable?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Phil N1BOW
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: PS: [IRLP] IRLP OS and USB Drive

Phil Zocco
 

Dave C,

 

The actual OS will be installed on a solid state drive for node 5960. I am using the USB drive only to boot up and get things going.

 

Not sure if I misstated my intentions. I was just trying to start the install using a USB drive instead of a SATA CD-ROM. That would entail pulling a drive out of one of my Windows PCs.

 

Thanks and 73,

 

Phil N1BOW

 

From: IRLP@irlp.groups.io [mailto:IRLP@irlp.groups.io] On Behalf Of bruce clements
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 11:09 PM
To: IRLP@irlp.groups.io
Subject: Re: PS: [IRLP] IRLP OS and USB Drive

 

Thanks Dave.

 

The usb stick is now on the shelf as a emergency backup..now using the ide flash module and I'm going to make another one and put it on the shelf as well.

 

Thanks for the info

 

Bruce Ve3bv 

2226

 

 

 

Sent from my Galaxy Tab® E

 

-------- Original message --------

From: David Cameron - IRLP <dcameron@...>

Date: 2019-12-03 10:58 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: IRLP@irlp.groups.io

Subject: Re: PS: [IRLP] IRLP OS and USB Drive

 

Rufus will not work on some systems. The concept of using win32diskimager is new. Read up on isohybrid for more information. It will only work on the latest debian 10 iso.

 

I caution against installing the actual OS onto a USB based disk drive, unless it is a USB 3 port and you have a UPS. They will work ok until your first or second power outage. 

 

Dave Cameron 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: bruce clements <ve3bv.ca@...>

Date: 12/3/19 4:29 PM (GMT-08:00)

To: IRLP@irlp.groups.io

Subject: Re: PS: [IRLP] IRLP OS and USB Drive

 

I used FAT 32 on my usb stick..I used  Rufus to copy the install file to the stick.

I downloaded the file onto my desktop , then used Rufus to put it on a bootable stick.

 

I've never used the win32diskImager , so maybe Dave or someone else can let you know.

 

Bruce Ve3bv 

2226

 

 

 

Sent from my Galaxy Tab® E

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Phil Zocco <n1bow@...>

Date: 2019-12-03 7:19 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: IRLP@irlp.groups.io

Subject: Re: PS: [IRLP] IRLP OS and USB Drive

 

BTW, do you format the USB drive as FAT 32 or NTFS even though it will hold a Linux OS?

 

From: IRLP@irlp.groups.io [mailto:IRLP@irlp.groups.io] On Behalf Of Phil Zocco
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 6:50 PM
To: IRLP@irlp.groups.io
Subject: Re: PS: [IRLP] IRLP OS and USB Drive

 

Thanks to all for the replies.

 

To Dave C: O was looking for software to image directly to a USB stick and now I know what to look for.

 

73,

 

Phil N1BOW

 

From: IRLP@irlp.groups.io [mailto:IRLP@irlp.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Cameron - IRLP
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 6:43 PM
To: IRLP@irlp.groups.io
Subject: Re: PS: [IRLP] IRLP OS and USB Drive

 

Actually, with the latest ISO image you can write the iso image directly to a USB stick using win32diskImager, the same way you would image an SD card for a raspberry pi. 

 

David Cameron 

 

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: John <gielisj@...>

Date: 12/3/19 3:29 PM (GMT-08:00)

To: IRLP <IRLP@irlp.groups.io>

Subject: PS: [IRLP] IRLP OS and USB Drive

 

Also, I doubt whether you can copy, verbatim, the content of a ISO CD to a USB
stick, and expect IT to boot.

I will stand corrected !! :)

John

On 4/12/2019 9:25 am, John wrote:
> Hi Phil,
>
> I would suggest checking the BIOS on that MB to see it it allows a USB port to
> be bootable.
>
> 73 John@6163
>
>> On 4/12/2019 9:10:20 AM, Phil Zocco (n1bow@...) wrote:
>> > Greetings, IRLPers.
>>
>> I am in the process of updating node 5960 to a DN2800MT motherboard and an
>> SSD. I was able to find a board complete with 4G of memory on ebay.
>>
>> I have also been able to burn the ISO image Version 12.07 to a CD.
>> The only thing is in that clearing out my box of PC junk, I threw away my old
>> CD-ROMs.
>>
>> Then I noticed that the MB has no IDE port but it as a number of USB ports.
>> And the MB has SATA ports so using a PNY 120G SSD should work.
>>
>> My question is this: once I have burned the image to a CD, can I simply copy
>> all of the files from the CD to a USB drive and use that to install the IRLP
>> OS? IOW, will the USB drive be bootable?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Phil N1BOW
>>
>>
>>
>>