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Re: More information

ne1h@...
 

If you are talking about the "custom_on" and "custom_off" macros. Go
do this.

a) go to your "scripts" directory
b) issue this command, without the quotes "grep -i custom_on *",
you'll see that they are called from the ON and OFF scripts.

c) go create a file that is called "custom_on" and "custom_off" in
the "custom" directory
d) now you can take another script file and use it as a pattern, edit
the way you want make sure it has the same permissions as the other
scripts
e) if you use the dtmfdial script, you can issues commands from the
script that will generate dtmf sequences. This this valid strings
could contain "1234567890ABCSP" there is no "D" and the S is star and
the P is pound. So a command dtmfdial 123ABC, would generate the
dtmf sequence 123ABC out the radio

I'll try to throw together a sample and post it later.

Hope this helps....

BTW, it's amazing what you will find by looking over the script
commands, they are all ascii and you can use the "more" command or
the "less" command or your favorite editor, just make sure you don't
change any contents if you are using an editor.

Alan

--- In irlp@y..., "Chad Starling" <chad@v...> wrote:
hi there

anyone know how to use the DTMF_ONOFF_MACROS

so that i can turn things on and off when there is a connect ???


thanx


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custom_on and custom_off

ne1h@...
 

All,

Here is the basics for doing the custom_on and _off scripts.

a) create the scripts in the custom directory
b) edit the environment file
c) make sure you have "export CUSTOM_ON=YES" and "export
CUSTOM_OFF=YES" in that file (you'll have to be root to edit this
file)
d) save the file and exit from root
e) run the command ". /home/irlp/custom/environment" to reload the
environment with the changes

There you have it.

For a test, I wrote the following two script files.

CUSTOM_ON file --------------

#!/bin/bash

# This is the custom on file.

dtmfdial 123

exit 0

CUSTOM_OFF file -------------

#!/bin/bash

# This is the custom on file.

dtmfdial 321

exit 0


It worked like a change, played the dtmf and then annouced on the on,
and announced and played the dtmf on the off.

Hope this helps. BTW, what I did was copy the custom_decode script
to custom_on and custom_off, then edit, that way you maintain the
correct permissions and execution rights.

Alan


NEW PEI NODE VE1CRA

Ron <rmackay@...>
 

This is to announce that PEI (Canada) is now active on IRLP with node # 203
in Charlottetown.
(We are not showing in the status pages yet but we are "on-the-air")

The node is currently on a simplex channel but will very soon be wired to
the VE1CRA Repeater on 146.670 which also has UHF linking to the MARCAN
radio network.
73 - Ron VE1AIC


TX Delay on IRLP system Connect messages

Marshall Oldham
 

Greetings,

I have a little problem that I am trying to solve. Maybe someone has
already solved this issue.

The Los Angeles IRLP node ties into a 440 linked repeater system. This
system has 13 repeaters that are all linked up and down the state fulltime.
When someone connects to us via IRLP to the Los Angeles node, the people
listening to the system up in the San Francisco Bay area only hear the last
half of the IRLP connect message. Basically this is because of the many (5)
link hops in our system to get from the Los Angeles area to the bay area.

I would think that by enabling the IRLP PTT and adding a delay of one second
on my IRLP node before the Connect message is played will solve this
problem.

Anyone know how to add a second of delay after the PTT is enabled and before
the IRLP connect wave file message is played?

Thanks for your help!

73

Marshall - ke6pcv


Re: TX Delay on IRLP system Connect messages

ne1h@...
 

Check the "custom/timings" file. I'm not 100% sure, but there are
two timing params. One for the delay to watch cos to make sure you
aren't pulsing back and the other one I haven't watch, but it might
be what you are looking for.

I'll dig around and see what I can find. The bottom line is that
there is probably NO way to account for all the COS lockups, pl
decodes, etc that have to take place.

Alan
--- In irlp@y..., "Marshall Oldham" <ke6pcv@c...> wrote:
Greetings,

I have a little problem that I am trying to solve. Maybe someone
has
already solved this issue.

The Los Angeles IRLP node ties into a 440 linked repeater system.
This
system has 13 repeaters that are all linked up and down the state
fulltime.
When someone connects to us via IRLP to the Los Angeles node, the
people
listening to the system up in the San Francisco Bay area only hear
the last
half of the IRLP connect message. Basically this is because of the
many (5)
link hops in our system to get from the Los Angeles area to the bay
area.

I would think that by enabling the IRLP PTT and adding a delay of
one second
on my IRLP node before the Connect message is played will solve this
problem.

Anyone know how to add a second of delay after the PTT is enabled
and before
the IRLP connect wave file message is played?

Thanks for your help!

73

Marshall - ke6pcv


More Timing & DTMF Questions

Bill Gade
 

On our new node, Flin Flon #175, there seems to be something timing out
the system. After about two minutes, the node transmits a buzzing kind of
beep and drops out. It doesn't always do this but it is fairly
constant. I have looked through the timeout values but I don't see
anything that would be causing it.

Our second problem with that node is it's refusal to decode DTMF
tones. Generally, if we turn the computer off for a few hours, it will
decode for half an hour and then stop. Otherwise it just doesn't
decode. The yellow valid digit light does not light but there is audio to
the board. I suspect that perhaps a solder joint is bad and after it gets
warm it stops? Would anything else cause this?

I welcome you comments...

Bill Gade
VE4WO


Re: More Timing & DTMF Questions

Bret Mills <bmills@...>
 

DTMF Decoding requires a GOOD printer port on the Computer. I had a similar experience and had to install a OLD ISA based I/O card and everything worked 100% using the parallel port on the ISA card.
As far as your time out problem, Does the Radio on your IRLP have it's own Time Out timer?
just a thought.
Bret
WX7Y
Node 327
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Gade
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 9:37 PM
Subject: [irlp] More Timing & DTMF Questions

On our new node, Flin Flon #175, there seems to be something timing out
the system.  After about two minutes, the node transmits a buzzing kind of
beep and drops out.  It doesn't always do this but it is fairly
constant.  I have looked through the timeout values but I don't see
anything that would be causing it.

Our second problem with that node is it's refusal to decode DTMF
tones.  Generally, if we turn the computer off for a few hours, it will
decode for half an hour and then stop.  Otherwise it just doesn't
decode.  The yellow valid digit light does not light but there is audio to
the board.  I suspect that perhaps a solder joint is bad and after it gets
warm it stops?  Would anything else cause this? 

I welcome you comments...

Bill Gade
VE4WO


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Re: More Timing & DTMF Questions

pete@...
 

Bill

If the yellow light doesnt flicker with the DTMF tones, I'd suspect
the audio getting to the IRLP board is below standard. the MT8870 is
one of the best dtmf chips on the market and is VERY rock solid.

I'm involved with a few nodes in VK and have found that its the
quality of the link radio and the antenna you put on it. I have
moved VK2RBM to a friends house with a better antenna than mine, and
DTMF is 100% solid.

When you say drop out, what does that mean ?

1) Lack of audio
2) It drops the internet speakfreely link ie: imike and ispeaker
processes not running ?
3) If the amber light flashes with DTMF, check what the pc sees
with "readinput". Its in teh IRLP documentation.
4) When you say buzzing, does the radio actually key up ie: PTT
activates" and you hear a noise ?

To better track this down, I need a little more specific information..

73's Pete..vk2yx

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Gade
To: irlp@y...
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 9:37 PM
Subject: [irlp] More Timing & DTMF Questions


On our new node, Flin Flon #175, there seems to be something
timing out
the system. After about two minutes, the node transmits a
buzzing kind of
beep and drops out. It doesn't always do this but it is fairly
constant. I have looked through the timeout values but I don't
see
anything that would be causing it.

Our second problem with that node is it's refusal to decode DTMF
tones. Generally, if we turn the computer off for a few hours,
it will
decode for half an hour and then stop. Otherwise it just doesn't
decode. The yellow valid digit light does not light but there is
audio to
the board. I suspect that perhaps a solder joint is bad and
after it gets
warm it stops? Would anything else cause this?

I welcome you comments...

Bill Gade
VE4WO


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Re: TX Delay on IRLP system Connect messages

pete@...
 

Hi Alan

If you modify any of the scripts outside of the custom directory, the
IRLP "syncronisation software" will overwrite your files. What you
can do IS make a modification to your connect and answer scripts, put
a wait delay in for ptt's to engage, put this script into the
home/irlp/custom directory and run a cron job to overwrite the files
in teh script directory.

One thing though, tread carefully, if you make changes in your script
and it causes problems, you are running non-standard scripts which
may be difficult to remotely fault find in the future.

Regrds..Pete..vk2yx

--- In irlp@y..., ne1h@h... wrote:
Check the "custom/timings" file. I'm not 100% sure, but there are
two timing params. One for the delay to watch cos to make sure you
aren't pulsing back and the other one I haven't watch, but it might
be what you are looking for.

I'll dig around and see what I can find. The bottom line is that
there is probably NO way to account for all the COS lockups, pl
decodes, etc that have to take place.

Alan
--- In irlp@y..., "Marshall Oldham" <ke6pcv@c...> wrote:
Greetings,

I have a little problem that I am trying to solve. Maybe someone
has
already solved this issue.

The Los Angeles IRLP node ties into a 440 linked repeater system.
This
system has 13 repeaters that are all linked up and down the state
fulltime.
When someone connects to us via IRLP to the Los Angeles node, the
people
listening to the system up in the San Francisco Bay area only
hear
the last
half of the IRLP connect message. Basically this is because of
the
many (5)
link hops in our system to get from the Los Angeles area to the
bay
area.

I would think that by enabling the IRLP PTT and adding a delay of
one second
on my IRLP node before the Connect message is played will solve
this
problem.

Anyone know how to add a second of delay after the PTT is enabled
and before
the IRLP connect wave file message is played?

Thanks for your help!

73

Marshall - ke6pcv


Just a reminder

ne1h@...
 

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But you'd still like to maintain the ability to read, respond and
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Thats what I do! :)

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Alan


pulseback

Jim Price WW4M <pk@...>
 

Hi all. Raleigh, North Carolina, node #426 went online yesterday, but
we're having problems with pulsebacks.

We ran pulsecheck and it recommends a setting of 150, but changing the
setting in $CUSTOM/timing doesn't seem to help -- do changes take effect
immediately upon saving the file, or must something be reinitialized?

afterinstallv2.htm says: "A PULSEBACK is caused by a digital packet(s)
being sent from your node without a valid COS signal. They are most often
caused by hangtime settings on your repeater." We disconnected from links
to other local repeaters and reduced the repeater hangtime to nil but the
problem persisted.

The webpage also says "They can also be caused by the receiver itself. If
the receiver sends a COS signal to the IRLP board after the radio has just
unkeyed, a PULSEBACK has occurred. " Can anyone explain why the receiver
might send a COS signal after the radio has unkeyed? At the last moment
we had to switch to an Alinco HT for use as the link radio, and it has an
energy-saving feature that can't be disabled that causes it to sample the
RX and sleep between samples if there's been no activity. We're wondering
if this or something else causing the COS voltage to change, resulting in
the pulses. We're going to wire another radio and retry this afternoon.

Would appreciate hearing from other people who've had problems with
pulsebacks. Perhaps we can connect to someone else's node this evening
(7-10pm EDT, 2300-0200 UTC) to discuss it. Probably shouldn't get on a
reflector since that was causing problems.

Tnx, 73

Jim WW4M


Re: pulseback

Terry Stewardson
 

Hi Jim welcome abroad...First thing if you make changes you must restart
irlp..to do this run rc.irlp in custom dir or reboot computer..Pulses can be
cause by a few things. On my node the link radio was slow to drop cos
because of the ctss decoder. When I link to a repeater a MSR2000 the tone
reed that was modify to follow COS input only was also slow to drop causing
pulsebacks. We had to change tone encoder to a solid state version to speed
up drop of tone. One way to test is to run readinput while connected to a
refector and watch input if their is no cos input on your end the screen
should show
PTT active
PTT inactive
PTT active
PTT inactive
PTT active
PTT inactive
as conversations are going on,.. if you see COS activity without anyone
keying up on your end your sending pulses. Try a setting of about 250 and
see what happens...
Hope I explained this OK...its still morning here...

Terry
VA3LU

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Price WW4M <pk@...>
To: <irlp@...>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:35 AM
Subject: [irlp] pulseback


Hi all. Raleigh, North Carolina, node #426 went online yesterday, but
we're having problems with pulsebacks.

We ran pulsecheck and it recommends a setting of 150, but changing the
setting in $CUSTOM/timing doesn't seem to help -- do changes take effect
immediately upon saving the file, or must something be reinitialized?

afterinstallv2.htm says: "A PULSEBACK is caused by a digital packet(s)
being sent from your node without a valid COS signal. They are most often
caused by hangtime settings on your repeater." We disconnected from links
to other local repeaters and reduced the repeater hangtime to nil but the
problem persisted.

The webpage also says "They can also be caused by the receiver itself. If
the receiver sends a COS signal to the IRLP board after the radio has just
unkeyed, a PULSEBACK has occurred. " Can anyone explain why the receiver
might send a COS signal after the radio has unkeyed? At the last moment
we had to switch to an Alinco HT for use as the link radio, and it has an
energy-saving feature that can't be disabled that causes it to sample the
RX and sleep between samples if there's been no activity. We're wondering
if this or something else causing the COS voltage to change, resulting in
the pulses. We're going to wire another radio and retry this afternoon.

Would appreciate hearing from other people who've had problems with
pulsebacks. Perhaps we can connect to someone else's node this evening
(7-10pm EDT, 2300-0200 UTC) to discuss it. Probably shouldn't get on a
reflector since that was causing problems.

Tnx, 73

Jim WW4M

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Re: pulseback

Ted Maczulat <tmaczulat@...>
 

In some radios the PTT circuitry causes a voltage to be applied to the
squelch circuits to "Force Mute" the receiver when the radio is
transmitting. When this "Force Mute" voltage is removed when the
transmitter unkeys the squelch circuitry sometimes glitches open for a few
milliseconds. This can cause a COS pulse and the computer generates a
pulseback. In other radios the PTT circuitry actually powers off some of
the receiver squelch and audio circuitry when the radio is transmitting.
This can cause a COS pulse when the receiver circuits a powered back up when
the radio is unkeyed.

Give me a call on Node 112 if you would like to chat about this.
Hope this helps.
good luck
Ted Maczulat, VE7TFM
NodeOp IRLP Node 112

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Price WW4M" <pk@...>
To: <irlp@...>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 7:35 AM
Subject: [irlp] pulseback


Hi all. Raleigh, North Carolina, node #426 went online yesterday, but
we're having problems with pulsebacks.
<<<snip>>>
unkeyed, a PULSEBACK has occurred. " Can anyone explain why the receiver
might send a COS signal after the radio has unkeyed? At the last moment
we had to switch to an Alinco HT for use as the link radio, and it has an


Re: pulseback

Nate Duehr <nate@...>
 

The "irlp_reset" script can also be used to reload settings, I believe.
If you're logged in as user repeater (make sure you become religious
about this, being logged in as root can cause various problems with the
node software saving things with wrong permissions, etc...) it should be
in your path.

73 de Nate, N0NTZ
(Who finally closed on the new house today and can start moving in on
Monday.... hmmm... where shall we pour the foundation for the tower?)

On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 10:35:49AM -0400, Jim Price WW4M wrote:
Hi all. Raleigh, North Carolina, node #426 went online yesterday, but
we're having problems with pulsebacks.

We ran pulsecheck and it recommends a setting of 150, but changing the
setting in $CUSTOM/timing doesn't seem to help -- do changes take effect
immediately upon saving the file, or must something be reinitialized?

afterinstallv2.htm says: "A PULSEBACK is caused by a digital packet(s)
being sent from your node without a valid COS signal. They are most often
caused by hangtime settings on your repeater." We disconnected from links
to other local repeaters and reduced the repeater hangtime to nil but the
problem persisted.

The webpage also says "They can also be caused by the receiver itself. If
the receiver sends a COS signal to the IRLP board after the radio has just
unkeyed, a PULSEBACK has occurred. " Can anyone explain why the receiver
might send a COS signal after the radio has unkeyed? At the last moment
we had to switch to an Alinco HT for use as the link radio, and it has an
energy-saving feature that can't be disabled that causes it to sample the
RX and sleep between samples if there's been no activity. We're wondering
if this or something else causing the COS voltage to change, resulting in
the pulses. We're going to wire another radio and retry this afternoon.

Would appreciate hearing from other people who've had problems with
pulsebacks. Perhaps we can connect to someone else's node this evening
(7-10pm EDT, 2300-0200 UTC) to discuss it. Probably shouldn't get on a
reflector since that was causing problems.

Tnx, 73

Jim WW4M

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New Node op Q

ne1h@...
 

All,

Is there a command that will end the link without having to specify
the node number. If I'm connected to say node 327 instead of having
to know that, how can I just disconnect? Or better, let's say
someone is connected to me and I don't know what the node # is. Is
there a command to disconnect?

Is there a command that will just simply echo the voice ID of the
node that is connected to my node?

Thanks,
Alan


Re: New Node op Q

Paul Cassel <paul@...>
 

Any off code will work  ie your not sure what node your connected to just dial ANY off code xxx1 and the active link will drop.
 
You can also add a line to the /home/irlp/custom/custom_decode  script and add your own off code. 
 
if [ "$1" = "00" ] ; then "$SCRIPT"/end ; exit 1 ; fi
if [ "$1" = "11" ] ; then "$SCRIPT"/connect_to_reflector ref920 ; exit 1 ; fi
 
Is what I used for a quick on for REF2 and a quick OFF for ANY connection
 
Paul
 

----- Original Message -----
From: ne1h@...
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:02 PM
Subject: [irlp] New Node op Q

All,

Is there a command that will end the link without having to specify
the node number.  If I'm connected to say node 327 instead of having
to know that, how can I just disconnect?  Or better, let's say
someone is connected to me and I don't know what the node # is.  Is
there a command to disconnect?

Is there a command that will just simply echo the voice ID of the
node that is connected to my node?

Thanks,
Alan





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Re: New Node op Q

ne1h@...
 

Wow, most excellent and I've also found that any node that is
connected can be determined by issueing any on connect. Now I just
need to figure out a way to do that without issueing a connect on
accident. But, I think I just figured that one out too... I should
be able to create a simple script that will echo the wave file for
the connected station by using the custom_decode script and
the "active" file in the local directory :)... Hmm, I might have to
modify my ID script to ID the node that is connected on some
interval. Oh, this could be fun!!!

This should be interesting... If anyone is interested in my
results.... I'm happy to share, just drop me a note.

Thanks for the help,
Alan

--- In irlp@y..., "Paul Cassel" <paul@v...> wrote:
Any off code will work ie your not sure what node your connected
to just dial ANY off code xxx1 and the active link will drop.

You can also add a line to the /home/irlp/custom/custom_decode
script and add your own off code.

if [ "$1" = "00" ] ; then "$SCRIPT"/end ; exit 1 ; fi
if [ "$1" = "11" ] ; then "$SCRIPT"/connect_to_reflector ref920 ;
exit 1 ; fi

Is what I used for a quick on for REF2 and a quick OFF for ANY
connection

Paul

----- Original Message -----
From: ne1h@h...
To: irlp@y...
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:02 PM
Subject: [irlp] New Node op Q


All,

Is there a command that will end the link without having to
specify
the node number. If I'm connected to say node 327 instead of
having
to know that, how can I just disconnect? Or better, let's say
someone is connected to me and I don't know what the node # is.
Is
there a command to disconnect?

Is there a command that will just simply echo the voice ID of the
node that is connected to my node?

Thanks,
Alan




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Re: New Node op Q

FredList <fredlist@...>
 

check with Warren KD4Z, it has already been done I think parts are already
in the scripts as he has sent them to Dave... kd4z@... we have
things like this running here in Orlando.. Fred

----- Original Message -----
From: <ne1h@...>
To: <irlp@...>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:36 PM
Subject: [irlp] Re: New Node op Q


Wow, most excellent and I've also found that any node that is
connected can be determined by issueing any on connect. Now I just
need to figure out a way to do that without issueing a connect on
accident. But, I think I just figured that one out too... I should
be able to create a simple script that will echo the wave file for
the connected station by using the custom_decode script and
the "active" file in the local directory :)... Hmm, I might have to
modify my ID script to ID the node that is connected on some
interval. Oh, this could be fun!!!

This should be interesting... If anyone is interested in my
results.... I'm happy to share, just drop me a note.

Thanks for the help,
Alan

--- In irlp@y..., "Paul Cassel" <paul@v...> wrote:
Any off code will work ie your not sure what node your connected
to just dial ANY off code xxx1 and the active link will drop.

You can also add a line to the /home/irlp/custom/custom_decode
script and add your own off code.

if [ "$1" = "00" ] ; then "$SCRIPT"/end ; exit 1 ; fi
if [ "$1" = "11" ] ; then "$SCRIPT"/connect_to_reflector ref920 ;
exit 1 ; fi

Is what I used for a quick on for REF2 and a quick OFF for ANY
connection

Paul

----- Original Message -----
From: ne1h@h...
To: irlp@y...
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:02 PM
Subject: [irlp] New Node op Q


All,

Is there a command that will end the link without having to
specify
the node number. If I'm connected to say node 327 instead of
having
to know that, how can I just disconnect? Or better, let's say
someone is connected to me and I don't know what the node # is.
Is
there a command to disconnect?

Is there a command that will just simply echo the voice ID of the
node that is connected to my node?

Thanks,
Alan




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Re: New Node op Q

Chad Starling <chad@...>
 

sounds like a great idea... would like to see the results..

thanx chad

----- Original Message -----
From: <ne1h@...>
To: <irlp@...>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 7:36 PM
Subject: [irlp] Re: New Node op Q


Wow, most excellent and I've also found that any node that is
connected can be determined by issueing any on connect. Now I just
need to figure out a way to do that without issueing a connect on
accident. But, I think I just figured that one out too... I should
be able to create a simple script that will echo the wave file for
the connected station by using the custom_decode script and
the "active" file in the local directory :)... Hmm, I might have to
modify my ID script to ID the node that is connected on some
interval. Oh, this could be fun!!!

This should be interesting... If anyone is interested in my
results.... I'm happy to share, just drop me a note.

Thanks for the help,
Alan

--- In irlp@y..., "Paul Cassel" <paul@v...> wrote:
Any off code will work ie your not sure what node your connected
to just dial ANY off code xxx1 and the active link will drop.

You can also add a line to the /home/irlp/custom/custom_decode
script and add your own off code.

if [ "$1" = "00" ] ; then "$SCRIPT"/end ; exit 1 ; fi
if [ "$1" = "11" ] ; then "$SCRIPT"/connect_to_reflector ref920 ;
exit 1 ; fi

Is what I used for a quick on for REF2 and a quick OFF for ANY
connection

Paul

----- Original Message -----
From: ne1h@h...
To: irlp@y...
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:02 PM
Subject: [irlp] New Node op Q


All,

Is there a command that will end the link without having to
specify
the node number. If I'm connected to say node 327 instead of
having
to know that, how can I just disconnect? Or better, let's say
someone is connected to me and I don't know what the node # is.
Is
there a command to disconnect?

Is there a command that will just simply echo the voice ID of the
node that is connected to my node?

Thanks,
Alan




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Re: New Node op Q

Klaus Rung
 

Hi Alan,

You can drop any connection with a 1111 .

73 Klaus

--- ne1h@... wrote:
All,

Is there a command that will end the link without
having to specify
the node number. If I'm connected to say node 327
instead of having
to know that, how can I just disconnect? Or better,
let's say
someone is connected to me and I don't know what the
node # is. Is
there a command to disconnect?

Is there a command that will just simply echo the
voice ID of the
node that is connected to my node?

Thanks,
Alan




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Best regards from Klaus Rung VE3KR

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