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Re: Time script

Keith VE7GDH <ve7gdh@...>
 

Gervais VE2CKN wrote...

yes i am using MC as a graphical interface, Midnight Commander..

Ok the files SPEAKTIME is located in
irlp/custom/speaktime

if [ "$1" = "2" ] ; then "$CUSTOM"/speaktime ; exit 1 ; fi

this is the line i have in my custom_decode
It can't be the last line. The last line must be...

exit 0

Also, as Larry N7FM suggested, try using a code of more than one digit. You can alo run "readinput" to prove that your node is decoding the DTMF properly.

Too bad about the skidoo engine. Have fun with the wind generator!

Keith VE7GDH
Node 1148


Re: Time script

Keith VE7GDH <ve7gdh@...>
 

Gervais VE2CKN wrote...

yes i did it and the" S "represent what DTMF code ???
i have written S22 but i need to be sure i am sending the right code!
The S is a "star" or asterik. P is "pound" or #.

where in your hd is located your speaktime software??maybe is the location
of the software the probleme ???
Mine is an embedded node and the scripts were installed in a different location. If you can manually run the script and it works, then you know the script works.

Keith VE7GDH
Node 1148


Re: Audio devices not set correctly????

k9dc
 

The commands work fine on CentOS, although I have never found them to
be necessary. They do have to be run as root though, which is why they
need to placed in /etc/rc.d/rc.local BEFORE the command that launches
IRLP. You could instead place them near the top of /home/irlp/custom/
rc.irlp

Did you run 'sndconfig' first?

This is a sound card thing. It should not prevent dtmf from decoding
anything since the DTMF decoder is independent and on the IRLP card.
The most likely problem causing that is the parallel port not set
correctly in the PC-BIOS.

Either one of these issues though, will prevent IRLP from operating.

-k9dc

On Mar 4, 2009, at 10:24 AM, kf4dwv wrote:

I'm running Cent OS 4.4 or maybe 4.7 from the last information I
looked at.

I was troubleshooting DTMF problems where the IRLP card is not
receiving the DTMF codes but the repeater and everything else seemed
to be working fine. I was trying to connect to a station from the
command line and started receiving the error message "Audio devices
not set correctly".

I found something in the unofficial IRLP manual regarding this and
suggested it was a permission issue with the audio device and audio
mixer. It mentioned running 3 commands from the command line but the
second one –
Chmod 660 /dev/mixer* /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* returned an error message
that the files could not be found.

I was going to try the last suggestion adding it to the bottom of
the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file but could not find that file either.

1. Does this possible solution only relate to RH7 OS or should
it work with Cent OS also?
2. Could this be the problem with DTMF not working in the first
place?
3. If the commands should work with Cent OS, what am I doing
wrong – suggestions? I've used the linux commands to fine a file
anywhere on the system and it didn't find any of them.

KF4DWV
Node # 4477


Audio devices not set correctly????

kf4dwv <gballance@...>
 

I'm running Cent OS 4.4 or maybe 4.7 from the last information I
looked at.

I was troubleshooting DTMF problems where the IRLP card is not
receiving the DTMF codes but the repeater and everything else seemed
to be working fine. I was trying to connect to a station from the
command line and started receiving the error message "Audio devices
not set correctly".

I found something in the unofficial IRLP manual regarding this and
suggested it was a permission issue with the audio device and audio
mixer. It mentioned running 3 commands from the command line but the
second one –
Chmod 660 /dev/mixer* /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* returned an error message
that the files could not be found.

I was going to try the last suggestion adding it to the bottom of
the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file but could not find that file either.

1. Does this possible solution only relate to RH7 OS or should
it work with Cent OS also?
2. Could this be the problem with DTMF not working in the first
place?
3. If the commands should work with Cent OS, what am I doing
wrong – suggestions? I've used the linux commands to fine a file
anywhere on the system and it didn't find any of them.

KF4DWV
Node # 4477


now up and running ( virtually )

chrisppm <chrisppm@...>
 

Just popped in to thank all of you on here that rendered assistance, the node is ready ,i've had the email from the keymaster so hopefully it won't be too long now
73
2e1ppm
christopher


Re: midland 13-510 cos

Peter
 

Tom, the cos line just requires a voltage change from your radio when
it receives a signal, the change can be a plus voltage or a minus
voltage depending on how your radio works and how your IRLP cos line
jumpers are set on your board, my radio for instance sends 7 volts to
the IRLP board when it receives a signal, on some radios its possible
to use the power from the red LED on the front of the radio that
indicates that you are receiving a signal the power that goes to the
led is normally about 5 volts and that plenty to make the cos line
work.

if you can't find a voltage rise in the radio then try to find a
voltage fall and set the jumpers accordingly.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 5:55 PM, tmill604 <tmill604@...> wrote:
Hello all,
New to IRLP and am setting up a link. I have a Midland 13-510 2 meter
radio and was wondering if anyone could help me out with the radio
interface adapter wiring. The only thing I am having problems figuring
out is the COS connection. Do I need to add a CTSS board to this radio
in order to get COS? I do have a pin in the mic connector that could be
used for the COS if I nknew where to hook it internaly. Any help would
be appreciated.
Tom N8TWM



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Regards, Peter Gurney.
M1GUR.


Re: dtmf tone detection

 

At 11:34 AM 3/4/2009, you wrote:
The IRLP network standard has been de-emphasized audio for close to ten
years.
Yep. :)

The majority have chosen to de-emphasize prior to the A-D conversion, since
PC sound cards are better suited to handling audio centered around the
mid-range, than the high end. (Yes, there WAS a technical reason for
choosing de-emphasized audio.) This also helps those who experiment with
Actually, there's several technical reasons, as I outlined in my message around 10 hours ago. ;)

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com


Re: Time script

gervais <ve2ckn@...>
 

Keith
yes i did it and the" S "represent what DTMF code ???
i have written S22 but i need to be sure i am sending the right code!

where in your hd is located your speaktime software??maybe is the location of the software the probleme ???


gervais


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Keith VE7GDH" <ve7gdh@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:32 PM
To: <irlp@...>
Subject: Re: [irlp] Re: Time script

Larry N7FM wrote...

Below is some comments from inside the decode script on my node.
Do you suppose Gervais has a version of the script that required more
than a single digit to decode.

# DTMF Commands must be 1 or more digits... etc.
I noticed that every time you indicate a successful trial of the
decode function at your location "$1" always equalled more than a
single digit.
I went back and tried it again with a single digit and it successfully
ran the "speaktime" script here. Gervais - could you please try changing
the code to two or more digits to see if it makes any difference?

Keith VE7GDH
Node 1148



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Re: Time script

Keith VE7GDH <ve7gdh@...>
 

Larry N7FM wrote...

Below is some comments from inside the decode script on my node.
Do you suppose Gervais has a version of the script that required more
than a single digit to decode.

# DTMF Commands must be 1 or more digits... etc.
I noticed that every time you indicate a successful trial of the
decode function at your location "$1" always equalled more than a
single digit.
I went back and tried it again with a single digit and it successfully
ran the "speaktime" script here. Gervais - could you please try changing
the code to two or more digits to see if it makes any difference?

Keith VE7GDH
Node 1148


Re: Time script

gervais <ve2ckn@...>
 

Bonsoir Keith

yes i am using MC as a graphical interface, Midnight Commander,
for me it is like an DOS interface in a LINUX .
It is useful to understand the structure of Linux.
Not understanding everything but i least what i am doing ,,,,it is easier.


Ok the files SPEAKTIME is located in
irlp/custom/speaktime

if [ "$1" = "2" ] ; then "$CUSTOM"/speaktime ; exit 1 ; fi

this is the line i have in my custom_decode

,,yes my skidoo engine is badly hurt but i have decided to et it go for this year,i will repair during summer time now i just ordered some parts for my windcharger i am working on also :-))))))

bye
Gervais ve2ckn
far East




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From: "Keith VE7GDH" <ve7gdh@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:58 AM
To: <irlp@...>
Subject: Re: [irlp] Time script

Gervais VE2CKN wrote...

if I double click on SPEAKTIME file, I can hear my time transmit on
the air,,, but if I send my DTMF code, nothing happens
You have a graphical interface where you can use a mouse?

OK, so "speaktime" will run. Where is it located, and what do you have
in custom_decode to call it? I think you said before...

if [ "$1" = "1" ] ; then "$CUSTOM"/speaktime ; exit 1 ; fi

Do you have some other entry earlier in the file that also wants to use
DTMF 1? I tested the above code (modified for my path and DTMF
code as follows) and it did work. (line is split in this email but
shouldn't matter)

if [ "$1" = "S24" ] ; then /home/irlp/features/speaktime/speaktime ;
exit 1 ; fi

Keith VE7GDH
Node 1148



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Re: Time script

iamcranked <Larry@...>
 

Keith,

Below is some comments from inside the decode script on my node . Do you suppose Gervais has a version of the script that required more than a single digit to decode.

# DTMF Commands must be 1 or more digits
# DEVNOTE: kc6hur - The original code was not supposed to log any 0-1 digit
# codes but would allow them to be passed on; however, my log is
# full of single digit DTMF log entries. My code here will allow
# only DTMF codes with 2 or more digits to be logged and passed
# on to the rest of the decode software. Single digit codes are
# completely ignored and dropped. Hopefully, no one is crazy enough
# to want any single digit commands. If they do, just comment out
# this line.
# NEWNOTE: ve7ltd - This was changed to allow 1 digit codes to be entered
# and logged
if [ "${#1}" -lt "1" ] ; then exit 1 ; fi
#

I noticed that every time you indicate a successful trial of the decode function at your location "$1" always equaled more than a single digit.

Larry - N7FM
Node 3507

--- In irlp@..., "Keith VE7GDH" <ve7gdh@...> wrote:

Gervais VE2CKN wrote...

if I double click on SPEAKTIME file, I can hear my time transmit on
the air,,, but if I send my DTMF code, nothing happens
You have a graphical interface where you can use a mouse?

OK, so "speaktime" will run. Where is it located, and what do you have
in custom_decode to call it? I think you said before...

if [ "$1" = "1" ] ; then "$CUSTOM"/speaktime ; exit 1 ; fi

Do you have some other entry earlier in the file that also wants to use
DTMF 1? I tested the above code (modified for my path and DTMF
code as follows) and it did work. (line is split in this email but
shouldn't matter)

if [ "$1" = "S24" ] ; then /home/irlp/features/speaktime/speaktime ;
exit 1 ; fi

Keith VE7GDH
Node 1148


Re: dtmf tone detection

Nate Duehr <nate@...>
 

The IRLP network standard has been de-emphasized audio for close to ten
years.

If everyone new to the network builds their nodes with still-pre-emphasized
audio, starting today, by following your message, they'll sound tinny and
wrong to the rest of us who already set a standard way back before the IRLP
list moved to YahooGroups (probably) when Dave was still running it on his
server...

Any VoIP/Radio network has to set this standard. Each network chooses their
own.

The majority have chosen to de-emphasize prior to the A-D conversion, since
PC sound cards are better suited to handling audio centered around the
mid-range, than the high end. (Yes, there WAS a technical reason for
choosing de-emphasized audio.) This also helps those who experiment with
cross-linking, since a de-emphasized network and an emphasized network
aren't compatible if you're mixing the streams digitally.

Nate WY0X

-----Original Message-----
From: irlp@... [mailto:irlp@...] On Behalf Of
Rogers, Ron
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:04 PM
To: irlp@...
Subject: RE: [irlp] Re: dtmf tone detection

When tapping off audio in receivers used in repeater service or in IRLP
node creation the best and most consistent audio (and obtain the most
reliable DTMF tone decoding), is "virgin audio" taken directly from the
discriminator section or the discriminator IC BEFORE the audio goes
through any de-emphasis circuitry.

In most radios (and repeater receivers), this will result in an audio
signal amplitude somewhere between 1 and 2 volts P-P for a received
signal modulated (with voice) to about 5 KHz in deviation..

If everyone built their IRLP nodes with this in mind, this would go a
long way toward creating consistent and better fidelity audio across the
IRLP network, rather than the wide range of audio clarity, volume, and
sometimes poor fidelity we heard today with some nodes.


Ron

WW8RR


________________________________

From: irlp@... [mailto:irlp@...] On Behalf Of
Nate Duehr
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:49 PM
To: irlp@...
Subject: RE: [irlp] Re: dtmf tone detection



I highly recommend you find a take-off point in the radio that's NOT
tied to
the user volume control. Something that doesn't change level, no matter
what the user does with the front panel controls on the rig.

That, or rip the volume knob off the front of the radio once you set
levels
properly.

Someone WILL bump it or mess with it, eventually.

Nate WY0X

-----Original Message-----
From: irlp@... <mailto:irlp%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:irlp@... <mailto:irlp%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of
chrisppm
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:07 AM
To: irlp@... <mailto:irlp%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [irlp] Re: dtmf tone detection

--- In irlp@... <mailto:irlp%40yahoogroups.com> , Dave
Gingrich <Dave@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, all's ok now , I told you it might be something silly, I
upped the volume on the radio quite a bit and the yellow led was
flashing quite proudly. Thanks for your help in this matter
73
2e1ppm
Christopher

On Mar 2, 2009, at 8:12, chrisppm wrote:

--- In irlp@... <mailto:irlp%40yahoogroups.com> , Dave
Gingrich <Dave@> wrote:
Thanks Dave , interesting, the manual states that dtmf sould be
checked before the software is installed, it has been suggested that
there is no filter on the sub audible tones and this may be the
problem ?
That is correct. But I have never seen subtone be a problem before. Do
you have power on the board?

-k9dc
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Re: dtmf tone detection

 

At 07:03 AM 3/4/2009, you wrote:
When tapping off audio in receivers used in repeater service or in IRLP
node creation the best and most consistent audio (and obtain the most
reliable DTMF tone decoding), is "virgin audio" taken directly from the
discriminator section or the discriminator IC BEFORE the audio goes
through any de-emphasis circuitry.
Wouldn't there be excessive twist though?

If everyone built their IRLP nodes with this in mind, this would go a
long way toward creating consistent and better fidelity audio across the
IRLP network, rather than the wide range of audio clarity, volume, and
sometimes poor fidelity we heard today with some nodes.
No, what you get is a skewed frequency response on the digital side. This can cause a number of issues:

1. Some codecs, being designed for the spectral characteristics of the human voice (without a 6db/octave preemphasis) can get confused and create distorted audio.

2. Not all nodes run FM. For example, there has been the occasional HF gateway over the years. I have run SSB systems myself, and am currently feeding a HF net into IRLP and Echolink for emergency comms purposes. SSB systems do not use preemphasis.

3. Some IRLP systems do interconnect with non IRLP modes. An example is reflector 9219, which is used for the VoIP Hurricane Net. Same goes for 9508 (where I'm feeding WICEN HF traffic). Stations on the Echolink side of these systems would experience a skewed frequency response.

4. Some of us still have phase modulated exciters, which have a "natural" preemphasis built in (i.e. the process of PM itself), so don't need any coming from the network.

Keep the preemphasis where it belongs, on the actual segments where FM is utilised, and no where else. The correct audio for VoIP is natural, non-preemphasised audio. However, that said, what would help is if we adopted a standard preemphasis curve across the network. This could be achieved by moving the preemphasis and deemphasis out of the radio and into the interface, or the software. I can't see it happening soon, but that would be the only way to ensure a consistent audio response across the network.

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com


Re: dtmf tone detection

k9dc
 

On Mar 3, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Rogers, Ron wrote:

When tapping off audio in receivers used in repeater service or in IRLP
node creation the best and most consistent audio (and obtain the most
reliable DTMF tone decoding), is "virgin audio" taken directly from the
discriminator section or the discriminator IC BEFORE the audio goes
through any de-emphasis circuitry.
I think you have this backwards. Audio fed to the node should be de- empahsized and filtered (>300 Hz). It should be the same audio that would be fed to a local speaker. The node is expecting and delivering an emphasis neutral signal. Pulling audio directly from the discriminator does not provide that.

The audio out of my MASTR II for example, is de-emphasized, and passes through a 205 Hz notch filter and 3 stages of 300Hz High Pass.

-k9dc


Re: dtmf tone detection

Dennis Hudson
 

Me thinks it's a little too late for that now.

Dennis, N2LBT

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Rogers, Ron <RR124640@...> wrote:

When tapping off audio in receivers used in repeater service or in IRLP
node creation the best and most consistent audio (and obtain the most
reliable DTMF tone decoding), is "virgin audio" taken directly from the
discriminator section or the discriminator IC BEFORE the audio goes
through any de-emphasis circuitry.

In most radios (and repeater receivers), this will result in an audio
signal amplitude somewhere between 1 and 2 volts P-P for a received
signal modulated (with voice) to about 5 KHz in deviation..

If everyone built their IRLP nodes with this in mind, this would go a
long way toward creating consistent and better fidelity audio across the
IRLP network, rather than the wide range of audio clarity, volume, and
sometimes poor fidelity we heard today with some nodes.


Ron

WW8RR


Re: dtmf tone detection

Rogers, Ron <RR124640@...>
 

When tapping off audio in receivers used in repeater service or in IRLP
node creation the best and most consistent audio (and obtain the most
reliable DTMF tone decoding), is "virgin audio" taken directly from the
discriminator section or the discriminator IC BEFORE the audio goes
through any de-emphasis circuitry.

In most radios (and repeater receivers), this will result in an audio
signal amplitude somewhere between 1 and 2 volts P-P for a received
signal modulated (with voice) to about 5 KHz in deviation..

If everyone built their IRLP nodes with this in mind, this would go a
long way toward creating consistent and better fidelity audio across the
IRLP network, rather than the wide range of audio clarity, volume, and
sometimes poor fidelity we heard today with some nodes.


Ron

WW8RR


________________________________

From: irlp@... [mailto:irlp@...] On Behalf Of
Nate Duehr
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:49 PM
To: irlp@...
Subject: RE: [irlp] Re: dtmf tone detection



I highly recommend you find a take-off point in the radio that's NOT
tied to
the user volume control. Something that doesn't change level, no matter
what the user does with the front panel controls on the rig.

That, or rip the volume knob off the front of the radio once you set
levels
properly.

Someone WILL bump it or mess with it, eventually.

Nate WY0X

-----Original Message-----
From: irlp@... <mailto:irlp%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:irlp@... <mailto:irlp%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of
chrisppm
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:07 AM
To: irlp@... <mailto:irlp%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [irlp] Re: dtmf tone detection

--- In irlp@... <mailto:irlp%40yahoogroups.com> , Dave
Gingrich <Dave@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, all's ok now , I told you it might be something silly, I
upped the volume on the radio quite a bit and the yellow led was
flashing quite proudly. Thanks for your help in this matter
73
2e1ppm
Christopher

On Mar 2, 2009, at 8:12, chrisppm wrote:

--- In irlp@... <mailto:irlp%40yahoogroups.com> , Dave
Gingrich <Dave@> wrote:
Thanks Dave , interesting, the manual states that dtmf sould be
checked before the software is installed, it has been suggested that
there is no filter on the sub audible tones and this may be the
problem ?
That is correct. But I have never seen subtone be a problem before. Do
you have power on the board?

-k9dc
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Re: Initiate a Remote Call via SSH??

 

At 11:37 PM 3/3/2009, you wrote:
Yes, you can do anything remotely that is possible on a local console.
I have not had a console attached to my nodes in years, in fact on my
mobile node it is not even possible for to connect a keyboard and
monitor, and I never use the web tools. SSH is much faster and more
convenient, especially from my cell phone. No passwords are required
with SSH (although that takes some additional extra effort generate
and use SSH keys once).
The question was about the admin call feature, where the node owner can initiate a call to their PC (running Speak Freely) using the web interface. I haven't seen the script that runs this function, but the answer is still "yes, you can do it from SSH, but you have to work out how". Something like the following script might do it: This is rough and ready, no error checking, and no sanity checking on the inputs.


#!/bin/bash

# Usage: admincall <ip> <codec>

# Set node busy, replace XXXX with your node number.
echo stnXXXX > $ACTIVE

# Setup call to node owner's PC
echo $1>$LOCAL/calledip
echo $1>$LOCAL/port
$SCRIPT/sfswrapper
if [ $2 = "ADPCM" ]; then
ARGS="-f $1"
else
ARGS="-t $1"
fi

$SCRIPT/imike $ARGS

Then to connect to your PC, you simply type

$CUSTOM/admincall <yourip> ADPCM

for an ADPCM connection, or

$CUSTOM/admincall <yourip> GSM

for GSM


73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com


Re: dtmf tone detection

Nate Duehr <nate@...>
 

I highly recommend you find a take-off point in the radio that's NOT tied to
the user volume control. Something that doesn't change level, no matter
what the user does with the front panel controls on the rig.

That, or rip the volume knob off the front of the radio once you set levels
properly.

Someone WILL bump it or mess with it, eventually.

Nate WY0X

-----Original Message-----
From: irlp@... [mailto:irlp@...] On Behalf Of
chrisppm
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:07 AM
To: irlp@...
Subject: [irlp] Re: dtmf tone detection

--- In irlp@..., Dave Gingrich <Dave@...> wrote:
Hi Dave, all's ok now , I told you it might be something silly, I
upped the volume on the radio quite a bit and the yellow led was
flashing quite proudly. Thanks for your help in this matter
73
2e1ppm
Christopher

On Mar 2, 2009, at 8:12, chrisppm wrote:

--- In irlp@..., Dave Gingrich <Dave@> wrote:
Thanks Dave , interesting, the manual states that dtmf sould be
checked before the software is installed, it has been suggested that
there is no filter on the sub audible tones and this may be the
problem ?
That is correct. But I have never seen subtone be a problem before. Do
you have power on the board?

-k9dc



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Re: Time script

Keith VE7GDH <ve7gdh@...>
 

Gervais VE2CKN wrote...

if I double click on SPEAKTIME file, I can hear my time transmit on
the air,,, but if I send my DTMF code, nothing happens
You have a graphical interface where you can use a mouse?

OK, so "speaktime" will run. Where is it located, and what do you have
in custom_decode to call it? I think you said before...

if [ "$1" = "1" ] ; then "$CUSTOM"/speaktime ; exit 1 ; fi

Do you have some other entry earlier in the file that also wants to use
DTMF 1? I tested the above code (modified for my path and DTMF
code as follows) and it did work. (line is split in this email but
shouldn't matter)

if [ "$1" = "S24" ] ; then /home/irlp/features/speaktime/speaktime ;
exit 1 ; fi

Keith VE7GDH
Node 1148


Re: Time script

Keith VE7GDH <ve7gdh@...>
 

Gervais VE2CKN wrote...

I have no idea how too start manually those scripts,,,,:-(((
Too bad about the piston, but looking on the bright side, that's better
than having it sitting out back and rusting under the snow - hi!
I hope you can get it fixed up soon.. lots more winter for riding!

With the script(s) installed, just log in as "repeater" with SSH (or on
the console if you have a keyboard and monitor connected directly to
the node) and tell it to run... e.g. type the command and hit enter.

cd /home/irlp/custom (or cd custom if you are already in /home/irlp)

ls -alph (to list the files there)
(or just ls if you aren't interested in seeing more information... or
alias ls="ls -alph" if you want "ls" to always act like "ls -alph)

Assuming you see speaktime...

speaktime

If it doesn't run (location not in your path) instead type...

./speaktime

Same for star69 or ./star69

So... do they run if you type the commands in manually?

Keith VE7GDH
Node 1148