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Re: Login and Password

Michael Dougherty
 

Hello again Dave,

Thanks again for the valuable information regarding my node.

I would certainly be interested in an upgrade kit. Please keep me posted.

Mike.
VE2DPD.
2266

-----Original Message-----
From: IRLP@irlp.groups.io <IRLP@irlp.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Cameron -
IRLP
Sent: 25 mai 2020 11:46
To: IRLP@irlp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [IRLP] Login and Password

That sounds like one of the first revisions, based on the VIA ML6000.
With only 256M of RAM, it will struggle running Debian 10, but it will work.
I have sold embedded upgrade kits to others running that same hardware.

You could recover and reuse the IRLP board. Perhaps consider converting it
into a Pi-based node with some minor modification.

I have considered making another batch of upgrade kits for embedded node
owners that want to breathe new life into their old nodes. The problem is I
need more than just a single order to make it worthwhile.

This kit would take a snapshot of your node and expand it out onto a new
flash drive (8GB or larger) to bring you up to date with the software.
The current hardware is all capable except the flash disk. I would make the
kits for $130, which includes Air Post shipping.

David Cameron


On 2020-05-25 8:12 a.m., Michael Dougherty wrote:
Hello Dave,

Thanks for the information.

My embedded node's OS is sys linux 3.10. Init ver 2.84 and linux
2.4.32 IRLP

Main processor is C2 667 A Mhz 133x5.0. RAM 229376K memory - DDR266 DIMM
2.5-3-3 256 M Transcend. Primary Master Transcend 2.0 Flash drive
Transcend 40 pin IDE Flash module 128. Mother board EPIA-ML rev A

IRLP V3.00 I/O interface 2002.

In the document that you sent, the screens don't seem to be quite the
same as pictured.

Even if I can ''reset'' the password, will this node still work
properly or is the hardware and software outdated ?

Can the motherboard be upgraded.

Can the software be upgraded

Can I salvage anything such as the IRLP board V 3.00

Any suggestions are welcomed.

Thanks for your help.

Mike
VE2DPD
2266


-----Original Message-----
From: IRLP@irlp.groups.io <IRLP@irlp.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Cameron - IRLP
Sent: 24 mai 2020 22:51
To: IRLP@irlp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [IRLP] Login and Password

This document should help you, especially if you have an older
embedded node with a flash drive.

David Cameron

On 23/05/2020 8:46 a.m., Michael Dougherty wrote:

Hello,

I am new to IRLP. A few years ago I purchased a used working imbedded
node from a licensed amateur. I had to delay my amateur radio project
for health issues. Now that I am back I would like to get my node
working. I tried to re-program the node (it will boot) however I
cannot login as I do not have the login and password codes. I tried
to contact the previous owner and amateur who programmed the node
without in success. They may have moved or passed away let alone
remember the login and password. When I purchased the node there was
a 13 page manual written by Dave VE7LTD with no mention of the login
user ID and password.

Any suggestions as to reset the user ID login and password or will I
have to re-install the software.

Thank you for any suggestions.

Michael Dougherty

VE2DPD

Node 2266








Re: IRLP VPN Service Announcement

vk2gx@...
 

Thanks Tony :)


Re: Login and Password

David Cameron - IRLP
 

That sounds like one of the first revisions, based on the VIA ML6000. With only 256M of RAM, it will struggle running Debian 10, but it will work. I have sold embedded upgrade kits to others running that same hardware.

You could recover and reuse the IRLP board. Perhaps consider converting it into a Pi-based node with some minor modification.

I have considered making another batch of upgrade kits for embedded node owners that want to breathe new life into their old nodes. The problem is I need more than just a single order to make it worthwhile.

This kit would take a snapshot of your node and expand it out onto a new flash drive (8GB or larger) to bring you up to date with the software. The current hardware is all capable except the flash disk. I would make the kits for $130, which includes Air Post shipping.

David Cameron

On 2020-05-25 8:12 a.m., Michael Dougherty wrote:
Hello Dave,
Thanks for the information.
My embedded node's OS is sys linux 3.10. Init ver 2.84 and linux 2.4.32
IRLP
Main processor is C2 667 A Mhz 133x5.0. RAM 229376K memory - DDR266 DIMM
2.5-3-3 256 M Transcend. Primary Master Transcend 2.0 Flash drive
Transcend 40 pin IDE Flash module 128. Mother board EPIA-ML rev A
IRLP V3.00 I/O interface 2002.
In the document that you sent, the screens don't seem to be quite the same
as pictured.
Even if I can ''reset'' the password, will this node still work properly or
is the hardware and software outdated ?
Can the motherboard be upgraded.
Can the software be upgraded
Can I salvage anything such as the IRLP board V 3.00
Any suggestions are welcomed.
Thanks for your help.
Mike
VE2DPD
2266
-----Original Message-----
From: IRLP@irlp.groups.io <IRLP@irlp.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Cameron -
IRLP
Sent: 24 mai 2020 22:51
To: IRLP@irlp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [IRLP] Login and Password
This document should help you, especially if you have an older embedded node
with a flash drive.
David Cameron
On 23/05/2020 8:46 a.m., Michael Dougherty wrote:

Hello,

I am new to IRLP. A few years ago I purchased a used working imbedded
node from a licensed amateur. I had to delay my amateur radio project
for health issues. Now that I am back I would like to get my node
working. I tried to re-program the node (it will boot) however I
cannot login as I do not have the login and password codes. I tried to
contact the previous owner and amateur who programmed the node without
in success. They may have moved or passed away let alone remember the
login and password. When I purchased the node there was a 13 page
manual written by Dave VE7LTD with no mention of the login user ID and
password.

Any suggestions as to reset the user ID login and password or will I
have to re-install the software.

Thank you for any suggestions.

Michael Dougherty

VE2DPD

Node 2266


Re: Login and Password

Michael Dougherty
 

Hello Dave,

Thanks for the information.

My embedded node's OS is sys linux 3.10. Init ver 2.84 and linux 2.4.32
IRLP

Main processor is C2 667 A Mhz 133x5.0. RAM 229376K memory - DDR266 DIMM
2.5-3-3 256 M Transcend. Primary Master Transcend 2.0 Flash drive
Transcend 40 pin IDE Flash module 128. Mother board EPIA-ML rev A

IRLP V3.00 I/O interface 2002.

In the document that you sent, the screens don't seem to be quite the same
as pictured.

Even if I can ''reset'' the password, will this node still work properly or
is the hardware and software outdated ?

Can the motherboard be upgraded.

Can the software be upgraded

Can I salvage anything such as the IRLP board V 3.00

Any suggestions are welcomed.

Thanks for your help.

Mike
VE2DPD
2266

-----Original Message-----
From: IRLP@irlp.groups.io <IRLP@irlp.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Cameron -
IRLP
Sent: 24 mai 2020 22:51
To: IRLP@irlp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [IRLP] Login and Password

This document should help you, especially if you have an older embedded node
with a flash drive.

David Cameron

On 23/05/2020 8:46 a.m., Michael Dougherty wrote:

Hello,

I am new to IRLP. A few years ago I purchased a used working imbedded
node from a licensed amateur. I had to delay my amateur radio project
for health issues. Now that I am back I would like to get my node
working. I tried to re-program the node (it will boot) however I
cannot login as I do not have the login and password codes. I tried to
contact the previous owner and amateur who programmed the node without
in success. They may have moved or passed away let alone remember the
login and password. When I purchased the node there was a 13 page
manual written by Dave VE7LTD with no mention of the login user ID and
password.

Any suggestions as to reset the user ID login and password or will I
have to re-install the software.

Thank you for any suggestions.

Michael Dougherty

VE2DPD

Node 2266


Re: IRLP VPN Service Announcement

 

On 24/05/20 21:36, k9dc wrote:
To use IRLP VPN, you would need to install IRLP first. Once you have an IRLP node working, you can apply for the IRLP VPN service. The service works fine in Australia, one of our VPN servers is located in Sydney.

After IRLP is installed and working, you could add EchoIRLP to the node allowing it to make and receive most echolink calls. However it is an unsupported add-on to the IRLP installation, the group that wrote and supported it appears to no longer exist.
I can help with EchoIRLP, as far as the internals and how it works, but
not the installer, as I had nothing to do with the installation script,
others wrote that part.

--
73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com


Re: IRLP VPN Service Announcement

vk2gx@...
 

Thank you for your reply with information about IRLP and EchoLink, which has pointed us in the right direction.

Regards,

Paul VK2GX


Re: CentOS and Debian Not installing

Nosey Nick VA3NNW
 

David Cameron - IRLP wrote:
Often a Kernel Panic right off the start is a sign of bad hardware,
such as failing RAM. I always try to remove half the RAM chips, try
again, if the problem is the same, try the other half, if still the
same, I start looking for options in the BIOS that change the panic
behaviour.
True 'nuff.
If you can't get past the panic, Linux was just not meant to be on
this motherboard.
Well, there's also a few things you can do to make Linux deliberately
avoid treading on dubious/unsupported/broken bits of hardware. Most
distros use the grub bootloader, and many have a "failsafe" boot option
in the grub menu which will try disabling a bunch of things. If your
distro doesn't have that grub menu option, it might still have an option
"e to edit the commands before booting" and you can find the line that
says "kernel /blahblah" and add on the end some stuff like "kernel
/blahblah root=/dev/blah nosplash apm=off noresume edd=off
powersaved=off nohz=off highres=off processor.max_cstate=1 nomodeset 
x11failsafe acpi=off noapic nolapic "

Each of these options will disable stuff, often make Linux FAR less
efficient, far slower, use far more electricity, miss a bunch of
features... but MIGHT help it boot (or indeed might make it worse). This
is where the lines just before+after the START of the kernel panic is
often helpful - likely to tell us what subsystem is panicking.

Raspberry pi is a bit different, but you can get into a boot menu that
will let you edit "/boot/cmdline.txt" which is somewhat similar.

UEFI-based systems might be a bit different too, but sometimes have an
option to put them into a BIOS-compatible boot mode.

--
"Nosey" Nick Waterman, VA3NNW/G7RZQ, K2 #5209.
use Std::Disclaimer; sig@...
Kirk to Enterprise - beam down yeoman Rand and a six-pack.


Re: CentOS and Debian Not installing

David Cameron - IRLP
 

Often a Kernel Panic right off the start is a sign of bad hardware, such as failing RAM. I always try to remove half the RAM chips, try again, if the problem is the same, try the other half, if still the same, I start looking for options in the BIOS that change the panic behaviour.

You should also make sure your motherboard has the latest firmware for the BIOS.

If you can't get past the panic, Linux was just not meant to be on this motherboard.

David Cameron

On 24/05/2020 6:40 p.m., Nosey Nick VA3NNW wrote:
Chris Pitre wrote:
I was able to get some text this time, however the end result still is
not good.
last line is:
end kernel panic- not syncing: Attempted to kill init! exit
code 0x00000009
[  0.377311]     ]---
Yeah, no, the FIRST few lines of the kernel panic are far more likely to
be useful than the last few.

I think I have to assume there's something strange / unsupported /
possibly broken about your hardware.

Do any other OSes work OK, do you know?

73, Nick VA3NNW


Re: Login and Password

David Cameron - IRLP
 

This document should help you, especially if you have an older embedded node with a flash drive.

David Cameron

On 23/05/2020 8:46 a.m., Michael Dougherty wrote:

Hello,

I am new to IRLP. A few years ago I purchased a used working imbedded node from a licensed amateur. I had to delay my amateur radio project for health issues. Now that I am back I would like to get my node working. I tried to re-program the node (it will boot) however I cannot login as I do not have the login and password codes. I tried to contact the previous owner and amateur who programmed the node without in success. They may have moved or passed away let alone remember the login and password. When I purchased the node there was a 13 page manual written by Dave VE7LTD with no mention of the login user ID and password.

Any suggestions as to reset the user ID login and password or will I have to re-install the software.

Thank you for any suggestions.

Michael Dougherty

VE2DPD

Node 2266


Re: CentOS and Debian Not installing

Nosey Nick VA3NNW
 

Chris Pitre wrote:
I was able to get some text this time, however the end result still is
not good.
last line is:
end kernel panic- not syncing: Attempted to kill init! exit 
code 0x00000009
[  0.377311]     ]---
Yeah, no, the FIRST few lines of the kernel panic are far more likely to
be useful than the last few.

I think I have to assume there's something strange / unsupported /
possibly broken about your hardware.

Do any other OSes work OK, do you know?

73, Nick VA3NNW

--
"Nosey" Nick Waterman, VA3NNW/G7RZQ, K2 #5209.
use Std::Disclaimer; sig@...
The Universe knows what it's doing -- Ambasador Delenn, B5


Re: CentOS and Debian Not installing

Chris Pitre
 

Yes I did 

I was able to get some text this time, however the end result still is not good.

last line is:

end kernel panic- not syncing: Attempted to kill init! exit 
code 0x00000009
[  0.377311]     ]---


Re: IRLP VPN Service Announcement

k9dc
 

To use IRLP VPN, you would need to install IRLP first. Once you have an IRLP node working, you can apply for the IRLP VPN service. The service works fine in Australia, one of our VPN servers is located in Sydney.

After IRLP is installed and working, you could add EchoIRLP to the node allowing it to make and receive most echolink calls. However it is an unsupported add-on to the IRLP installation, the group that wrote and supported it appears to no longer exist.

Your repeater would become an IRLP repeater, that can make Echolink calls on the side. Most people here would tell you that is good enough. But it is a stretch to tell you it provides full Echolink capabilities and features. It does not provide any conferencing for example. Only one Echolink destination connected at a time.

We expect your repeater be primarily used for IRLP. But Echolink calls made from it work fine, including over IRLP VPN.

-k9dc

On May 23, 2020, at 23:16, vk2gx@... wrote:

Hello Dave,
My local amateur radio club is currently has an EchoLink node connected to our local 2m FM repeater, in Sydney, Australia. We are in the process of relocating the repeater to a site which does not have a fixed internet connection, therefore we need to use a 4G cell internet connection, which does not have a public IP address. We are considering changing the existing EchoLink node (running Windows based EchoLink in sysop mode) to IRLP. Would the IRLP VPN service be available for us to use in Australia? Also would like your advise what is the best way to move forward, as far as reliability and maintaining usability for our local EchoLink users? Any suggestions and advise would be gratefully received.
Regards,
Paul VK2GX


Re: IRLP VPN Service Announcement

vk2gx@...
 

Hello Dave,
My local amateur radio club is currently has an EchoLink node connected to our local 2m FM repeater, in Sydney, Australia. We are in the process of relocating the repeater to a site which does not have a fixed internet connection, therefore we need to use a 4G cell internet connection, which does not have a public IP address. We are considering changing the existing EchoLink node (running Windows based EchoLink in sysop mode) to IRLP. Would the IRLP VPN service be available  for us to use in Australia? Also would like your advise what is the best way to move forward, as far as reliability and maintaining usability for our local EchoLink users? Any suggestions and advise would be gratefully received.
Regards,
Paul VK2GX


Re: CentOS and Debian Not installing

David Cameron - IRLP
 

Did you try the no framebuffer option?

It's likely an issue with the video card not being fully compatible. 

The debian install is the same as the one that ships with debian, so best to look on forums for debian than to ask here. 

Dave Cameron 

-------- Original message --------
From: Chris Pitre <ve3ctp@...>
Date: 5/23/20 9:10 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: IRLP@irlp.groups.io
Subject: [IRLP] CentOS and Debian Not installing

[Edited Message Follows]

Please Help.

Tried to install Debian on a newer computer for IRLP,  DUO CORE , Sata HDD, I get to the Start/Menu screen on Debian, hit enter for text install, screen goes black and nothing happens.

Next for the heck of it I tried CentOS, freezes during the install at:

PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)

Anyone have a solution to this, 
Thanks


CentOS and Debian Not installing

Chris Pitre
 
Edited

Please Help.

Tried to install Debian on a newer computer for IRLP,  DUO CORE , Sata HDD, I get to the Start/Menu screen on Debian, hit enter for text install, screen goes black and nothing happens.

Next for the heck of it I tried CentOS, freezes during the install at:

PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)

Anyone have a solution to this, 
Thanks


Re: Login and Password

Michael Dougherty
 

I will check out the OS, hardware and I will ask the installs group for any
other suggestions before doing anything. Thanks to every one who answered my
email. Mike VE2DPD. 2266.

-----Original Message-----
From: IRLP@irlp.groups.io <IRLP@irlp.groups.io> On Behalf Of k9dc
Sent: 23 mai 2020 13:48
To: IRLP@irlp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [IRLP] Login and Password


There is no node 2266 in the network. If it has been down for more than 90
days (sounds like years in your case), it may have been deleted.

At the very least, you will need to perform a new installation from scratch.
Depending on how old it is, that may not be possible without upgrading the
hardware. The very first embedded nodes only had 256 MB of flash onboard
and actually ran totally from RAM, using a now antique version of Slackware.
Newer embedded nodes came with 2 to 8 GB of flash and ran a conventional
IRLP installation.

The user ID to log in will be root. But without the password you will not
bae able to get in. There a number of methods to perform a password
replacement on boot, but you will need to know what OS is on board to
perform a search for the procedure. What does it say on the local console
after it boots?

Your best bet may be to reach out (email) to installs@ irlp.net and ask for
assistance, DaveC monitors installs email, and he may be able to help you
figure out exactly what you have.

-k9dc


On May 23, 2020, at 11:46, Michael Dougherty <m.dougherty@...>
wrote:

Hello,

I am new to IRLP. A few years ago I purchased a used working imbedded node
from a licensed amateur. I had to delay my amateur radio project for health
issues. Now that I am back I would like to get my node working. I tried to
re-program the node (it will boot) however I cannot login as I do not have
the login and password codes. I tried to contact the previous owner and
amateur who programmed the node without in success. They may have moved or
passed away let alone remember the login and password. When I purchased the
node there was a 13 page manual written by Dave VE7LTD with no mention of
the login user ID and password.

Any suggestions as to reset the user ID login and password or will I have
to re-install the software.

Thank you for any suggestions.

Michael Dougherty
VE2DPD
Node 2266


Re: Login and Password

k9dc
 

There is no node 2266 in the network. If it has been down for more than 90 days (sounds like years in your case), it may have been deleted.

At the very least, you will need to perform a new installation from scratch. Depending on how old it is, that may not be possible without upgrading the hardware. The very first embedded nodes only had 256 MB of flash onboard and actually ran totally from RAM, using a now antique version of Slackware. Newer embedded nodes came with 2 to 8 GB of flash and ran a conventional IRLP installation.

The user ID to log in will be root. But without the password you will not bae able to get in. There a number of methods to perform a password replacement on boot, but you will need to know what OS is on board to perform a search for the procedure. What does it say on the local console after it boots?

Your best bet may be to reach out (email) to installs@ irlp.net and ask for assistance, DaveC monitors installs email, and he may be able to help you figure out exactly what you have.

-k9dc

On May 23, 2020, at 11:46, Michael Dougherty <m.dougherty@...> wrote:

Hello,

I am new to IRLP. A few years ago I purchased a used working imbedded node from a licensed amateur. I had to delay my amateur radio project for health issues. Now that I am back I would like to get my node working. I tried to re-program the node (it will boot) however I cannot login as I do not have the login and password codes. I tried to contact the previous owner and amateur who programmed the node without in success. They may have moved or passed away let alone remember the login and password. When I purchased the node there was a 13 page manual written by Dave VE7LTD with no mention of the login user ID and password.

Any suggestions as to reset the user ID login and password or will I have to re-install the software.

Thank you for any suggestions.

Michael Dougherty
VE2DPD
Node 2266


Re: Login and Password

Rick Szajkowski
 

There is a way to enter  new password I am sure some one will chime up

What OS are you useing ? 

Username will either be root or repeater 



Richard Szajkowski 
VA3 RZS VA3ZJ VE3BTE

On May 23, 2020, at 12:56 PM, John Lorenc <va3xjl@...> wrote:

Hi

I suggest your best course of action is to reinstall the node. The PGP keys will be needed and given you are not likely to have a backup, they may need to be reissued. Suggest reaching out to installs@... for assistance.

John va3wm
IRLP 2931, 2248



On May 23, 2020, at 12:40 PM, Michael Dougherty <m.dougherty@...> wrote:



Hello,

 

I am new to IRLP. A few years ago I purchased a used working imbedded node from a licensed amateur. I had to delay my amateur radio project for health issues. Now that I am back I would like to get my node working. I tried to re-program the node (it will boot)  however I cannot login as I do not have the login and password codes. I tried to contact the previous owner and amateur who programmed the node without in success. They may have moved or passed away let alone remember the login and password. When I purchased the node there was a 13 page manual written by Dave VE7LTD with no mention of the login user ID and password.

 

Any suggestions as to reset the user ID login and password or will I have to re-install the software.

 

Thank you for any suggestions.

 

Michael Dougherty

VE2DPD

Node 2266


Re: Login and Password

John Lorenc
 

Hi

I suggest your best course of action is to reinstall the node. The PGP keys will be needed and given you are not likely to have a backup, they may need to be reissued. Suggest reaching out to installs@... for assistance.

John va3wm
IRLP 2931, 2248



On May 23, 2020, at 12:40 PM, Michael Dougherty <m.dougherty@...> wrote:



Hello,

 

I am new to IRLP. A few years ago I purchased a used working imbedded node from a licensed amateur. I had to delay my amateur radio project for health issues. Now that I am back I would like to get my node working. I tried to re-program the node (it will boot)  however I cannot login as I do not have the login and password codes. I tried to contact the previous owner and amateur who programmed the node without in success. They may have moved or passed away let alone remember the login and password. When I purchased the node there was a 13 page manual written by Dave VE7LTD with no mention of the login user ID and password.

 

Any suggestions as to reset the user ID login and password or will I have to re-install the software.

 

Thank you for any suggestions.

 

Michael Dougherty

VE2DPD

Node 2266


Login and Password

Michael Dougherty
 

Hello,

 

I am new to IRLP. A few years ago I purchased a used working imbedded node from a licensed amateur. I had to delay my amateur radio project for health issues. Now that I am back I would like to get my node working. I tried to re-program the node (it will boot)  however I cannot login as I do not have the login and password codes. I tried to contact the previous owner and amateur who programmed the node without in success. They may have moved or passed away let alone remember the login and password. When I purchased the node there was a 13 page manual written by Dave VE7LTD with no mention of the login user ID and password.

 

Any suggestions as to reset the user ID login and password or will I have to re-install the software.

 

Thank you for any suggestions.

 

Michael Dougherty

VE2DPD

Node 2266