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Re: Simplex node ID

David Cameron - IRLP
 

The timer is based on PTT transmit signals, not COR (unless operating as a repeater controller, but that is a different ID script).

Dave

On 2020-04-28 1:03 p.m., pete damron wrote:
The slightest  vor/cos  inter mode  noise  can reset the I'd timer also.
Pete Damron
M5ZLW
On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 2:48 PM Gary - AG0N <mcduffie@ag0n.net <mailto:mcduffie@ag0n.net>> wrote:

> On Apr 27, 2020, at 11:37, Albert Febraro <w6aax@hotmail.com
<mailto:w6aax@hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Should my simplex node be sending an ID over the air even though
the node is usually idle?
No.  The FCC ruled on that long ago.  It should ID whenever the
transmitter has been in use for 10 minutes or more, and once within
10 minutes of the last transmission.
Gary - AG0N
Re: Simplex node ID

pete damron
 

The slightest  vor/cos  inter mode  noise  can reset the I'd timer also.
Pete Damron
M5ZLW

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 2:48 PM Gary - AG0N <mcduffie@...> wrote:


> On Apr 27, 2020, at 11:37, Albert Febraro <w6aax@...> wrote:
>
> Should my simplex node be sending an ID over the air even though the node is usually idle?

No.  The FCC ruled on that long ago.  It should ID whenever the transmitter has been in use for 10 minutes or more, and once within 10 minutes of the last transmission.

Gary - AG0N
Re: Simplex node ID

David Cameron - IRLP
 

This is how the interval ID system is set up. It ID's on first transmission, every interval after that, and then after one interval of inactivity sends a final ID.

It is standard on all Debian IRLP installs.

Dave Cameron

On 2020-04-28 12:48 p.m., Gary - AG0N wrote:

On Apr 27, 2020, at 11:37, Albert Febraro <w6aax@hotmail.com> wrote:
how Should my simplex node be sending an ID over the air even though the node is usually idle?
No. The FCC ruled on that long ago. It should ID whenever the transmitter has been in use for 10 minutes or more, and once within 10 minutes of the last transmission.
Gary - AG0N
Re: Simplex node ID

Gary - AG0N
 

On Apr 27, 2020, at 11:37, Albert Febraro <w6aax@hotmail.com> wrote:

Should my simplex node be sending an ID over the air even though the node is usually idle?
No. The FCC ruled on that long ago. It should ID whenever the transmitter has been in use for 10 minutes or more, and once within 10 minutes of the last transmission.

Gary - AG0N
Re: New IRLP node #piirlp

Dave K9DC
 


Node numbers are not assigned to boards. Rather they are assigned to a software installation which you must have a board, to complete.  If you have been assigned a number in the past, which you must know, it is possible to recover the number by corresponding with installs@ IRLP.net.  If you do not know your number, or if the registered owner is not you, requiring an exact match of the email address of your request, it cannot be recovered.  

To obtain a new number, you simply perform a NEW installation. A number will automatically be issued to you as part of that process. There is no need to contact anyone for a new number assignment.  All NEW number assignments are vetted by a human before they will work. Sometimes it takes us a couple of days to review and install your new key. So do not expect immediate access to the network after just completing an installation. You will receive an email upon installation of your key.

-k9dc

On Apr 28, 2020, at 08:30, vk5cp <vk5cp@...> wrote:

Hi

I purchased a V3.0 IRLP board a few years ago and am in the process of modifying it for use with a raspberry Pi. I cant remember if I was allocated an IRLP node number of PGP key when I purchased the board.

Is there process to recover an old IRLP node number and key or do I need to apply for a new one?  Who do I need to email?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Chris VK5CP 

New IRLP node #piirlp

vk5cp
 

Hi

I purchased a V3.0 IRLP board a few years ago and am in the process of modifying it for use with a raspberry Pi. I cant remember if I was allocated an IRLP node number of PGP key when I purchased the board.

Is there process to recover an old IRLP node number and key or do I need to apply for a new one?  Who do I need to email?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Chris VK5CP 
Re: Network disconnected script?

Dave Parks - WB8ODF
 

Thanks Dave, I know Kevin will read this, the PING IP is a variable you can set in the script. I'll make one of them the DEFAULT in version #2 which I'm working tonight and I'll upload it.


** Dave Parks **
IRLP Node: 8139
1-734-219-2010
Correspondent Amateur Radio Newsline



On Monday, April 27, 2020, 9:21:35 PM EDT, k9dc <dave@...> wrote:



There are two private IP addresses good for this test. 192.168.168.1 or 172.23.168.1.  They will only work if the VPN is up.  Any other public IP may work fine if the VPN is up or not.  Same IPs on both Chicago and Sydney.

-k9dc


> On Apr 27, 2020, at 19:54, Dave Parks - WB8ODF via groups.io <wb8odf=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
> You are most welcome Kevin, glad I could help.
>
> Via email we boiled it all down to Kevin's node kept dropping Openvpn and either Kevin had to reboot or restart Openvpn
>
> /usr/sbin/service openvpn restart.
>
> Our fix was to run a ping check every X minutes or hours (adjustable) and take a snapshot of each of the 3 pings, If the total of the snapshots = 1 or 2 we know there is some latency and need to take a look at the network but if the total = 3 then automatically restart Openvpn.
>
> I will be putting this script up on my website, it will be called Openvpnreset.
>
> If you're interested... It's easy to download and setup
>
> as user repeater type;
>
> cd $CUSTOM
> wget http://wb8odf.com/scripts/openfpnreset.wb8odf
> chmod 750 openvpnreset.wb8odf
>
> Then edit the script, all the details are inside, if ya need help just holler
>
> I'm locked down.... HELP!!!!
>
> ** Dave Parks **
> WB8ODF@...
> http://wb8odf.com
> IRLP Node: 8139
> 1-734-219-2010
> Correspondent Amateur Radio Newsline
>
>
>
> On Sunday, April 26, 2020, 7:56:35 PM EDT, Kevin B <buchholz676@...> wrote:
>
>
> Just wanted to update that Dave WB8ODF and I emailed back and forth and he was nice enough to take the time to write a script for me to make this happen. It works great! I run a couple of his scripts and they are all great and very nice directions.
>
> Thanks again Dave!
>
> Kevin
> VE6KEZ
>



Re: Network disconnected script?

Dave K9DC
 

There are two private IP addresses good for this test. 192.168.168.1 or 172.23.168.1. They will only work if the VPN is up. Any other public IP may work fine if the VPN is up or not. Same IPs on both Chicago and Sydney.

-k9dc

On Apr 27, 2020, at 19:54, Dave Parks - WB8ODF via groups.io <wb8odf=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

You are most welcome Kevin, glad I could help.

Via email we boiled it all down to Kevin's node kept dropping Openvpn and either Kevin had to reboot or restart Openvpn

/usr/sbin/service openvpn restart.

Our fix was to run a ping check every X minutes or hours (adjustable) and take a snapshot of each of the 3 pings, If the total of the snapshots = 1 or 2 we know there is some latency and need to take a look at the network but if the total = 3 then automatically restart Openvpn.

I will be putting this script up on my website, it will be called Openvpnreset.

If you're interested... It's easy to download and setup

as user repeater type;

cd $CUSTOM
wget http://wb8odf.com/scripts/openfpnreset.wb8odf
chmod 750 openvpnreset.wb8odf

Then edit the script, all the details are inside, if ya need help just holler

I'm locked down.... HELP!!!!

** Dave Parks **
WB8ODF@yahoo.com
http://wb8odf.com
IRLP Node: 8139
1-734-219-2010
Correspondent Amateur Radio Newsline



On Sunday, April 26, 2020, 7:56:35 PM EDT, Kevin B <buchholz676@gmail.com> wrote:


Just wanted to update that Dave WB8ODF and I emailed back and forth and he was nice enough to take the time to write a script for me to make this happen. It works great! I run a couple of his scripts and they are all great and very nice directions.

Thanks again Dave!

Kevin
VE6KEZ
Re: Simplex node ID

Rick Szajkowski
 

Great to know if I ever put a simplex node back on the air 

Richard Szajkowski 
VA3 RZS VA3ZJ VE3BTE

On Apr 27, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Dave Parks - WB8ODF via groups.io <wb8odf@...> wrote:


Allow me to throw this in for simplex node users as far as ID-ing.

My VOICE/CW ID scripts were written to work just like a repeater controller.

When you start the script, it sleeps until either COS or PTT goes high (which also has a kerchunk filter) when the COS or PTT does go high it ID's in the background if it's PTT or waits until COS goes low and then ID's (again in the background).

While either COS or PTT (or both) stays active the script ID's every 10 minutes, then when the COS & PTT goes low for 10 minutes it ID's one more time, making the ID the last thing your node transmits and then goes back to sleep until the COS or PTT goes high again.

The Kerchunk filter and ID timing are adjustable to allow other countries to use these scripts to be legal.

Having said all that, I believe Dave C VE7LTD built a CW ID into the IRLP software, but I'm not sure if it does all this.


** Dave Parks **
IRLP Node: 8139
1-734-219-2010
Correspondent Amateur Radio Newsline



On Monday, April 27, 2020, 4:08:43 PM EDT, Rick Szajkowski <va3rzs2@...> wrote:


In Canada , I id every 30 min if some one was using it or not, in the US I believe it’s every 10 min , I would treat it as a repeater as I did when simplex , as I did when it got moved to a repeater

It’s a little hard to ID a simplex node when your done , that’s a human thing

To be safe call or email the fcc or your local ARRL rep that knows about repeaters ( non attended transmitter ) to be safe and keep it off .520 !!

Listen listen and listen some more before you pick a freq to put the simplex node on

Nothing worse then put it on a Friday night rag chew freq , because you where away a Friday night or forgot to listen , and you put up the node ....... 3 weeks of a radio on and on freq , or in scan mode with a couple 5 freq , as one gets used delete it from the scan list

Asking forgiveness is not better here ,

Good luck and enjoy


Richard Szajkowski VA3RZS,VA3ZJ,VE3BTE

> On Apr 27, 2020, at 1:50 PM, Albert Febraro <w6aax@...> wrote:
>
> That’s what I thought.
> Thanks,
> Al
>>> On Apr 27, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Dave Schultheis <dave6592@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Al AAX wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Should my simplex node be sending an ID over the air even though the node is usually idle? If so how can I enable this in the software?
>>
>>
>> Your node need only identify every ten minutes when it is transmitting, with one final ID at the end of a series of transmissions.
>>
>> There is no need for it to identify when it is idle.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Dave Schultheis
>> WB6KHP San Jose
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


Re: Network disconnected script?

Dave Parks - WB8ODF
 

You are most welcome Kevin, glad I could help.

Via email we boiled it all down to Kevin's node kept dropping Openvpn and either Kevin had to reboot or restart Openvpn

/usr/sbin/service openvpn restart.

Our fix was to run a ping check every X minutes or hours (adjustable) and take a snapshot of each of the 3 pings, If the total of the snapshots = 1 or 2 we know there is some latency and need to take a look at the network but if the total = 3 then automatically restart Openvpn.

I will be putting this script up on my website, it will be called Openvpnreset.

If you're interested... It's easy to download and setup

as user repeater type;

cd $CUSTOM
chmod 750 openvpnreset.wb8odf

Then edit the script, all the details are inside, if ya need help just holler

I'm locked down.... HELP!!!!

** Dave Parks **
IRLP Node: 8139
1-734-219-2010
Correspondent Amateur Radio Newsline



On Sunday, April 26, 2020, 7:56:35 PM EDT, Kevin B <buchholz676@...> wrote:


Just wanted to update that Dave WB8ODF and I emailed back and forth and he was nice enough to take the time to write a script for me to make this happen. It works great! I run a couple of his scripts and they are all great and very nice directions.

Thanks again Dave!

Kevin
VE6KEZ

Re: Simplex node ID

Dave Parks - WB8ODF
 

Allow me to throw this in for simplex node users as far as ID-ing.

My VOICE/CW ID scripts were written to work just like a repeater controller.

When you start the script, it sleeps until either COS or PTT goes high (which also has a kerchunk filter) when the COS or PTT does go high it ID's in the background if it's PTT or waits until COS goes low and then ID's (again in the background).

While either COS or PTT (or both) stays active the script ID's every 10 minutes, then when the COS & PTT goes low for 10 minutes it ID's one more time, making the ID the last thing your node transmits and then goes back to sleep until the COS or PTT goes high again.

The Kerchunk filter and ID timing are adjustable to allow other countries to use these scripts to be legal.

Having said all that, I believe Dave C VE7LTD built a CW ID into the IRLP software, but I'm not sure if it does all this.


** Dave Parks **
IRLP Node: 8139
1-734-219-2010
Correspondent Amateur Radio Newsline



On Monday, April 27, 2020, 4:08:43 PM EDT, Rick Szajkowski <va3rzs2@...> wrote:


In Canada , I id every 30 min if some one was using it or not, in the US I believe it’s every 10 min , I would treat it as a repeater as I did when simplex , as I did when it got moved to a repeater

It’s a little hard to ID a simplex node when your done , that’s a human thing

To be safe call or email the fcc or your local ARRL rep that knows about repeaters ( non attended transmitter ) to be safe and keep it off .520 !!

Listen listen and listen some more before you pick a freq to put the simplex node on

Nothing worse then put it on a Friday night rag chew freq , because you where away a Friday night or forgot to listen , and you put up the node ....... 3 weeks of a radio on and on freq , or in scan mode with a couple 5 freq , as one gets used delete it from the scan list

Asking forgiveness is not better here ,

Good luck and enjoy


Richard Szajkowski VA3RZS,VA3ZJ,VE3BTE

> On Apr 27, 2020, at 1:50 PM, Albert Febraro <w6aax@...> wrote:
>
> That’s what I thought.
> Thanks,
> Al
>>> On Apr 27, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Dave Schultheis <dave6592@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Al AAX wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Should my simplex node be sending an ID over the air even though the node is usually idle? If so how can I enable this in the software?
>>
>>
>> Your node need only identify every ten minutes when it is transmitting, with one final ID at the end of a series of transmissions.
>>
>> There is no need for it to identify when it is idle.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Dave Schultheis
>> WB6KHP San Jose
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


Re: Simplex node ID

Rick Szajkowski
 

In Canada , I id every 30 min if some one was using it or not, in the US I believe it’s every 10 min , I would treat it as a repeater as I did when simplex , as I did when it got moved to a repeater

It’s a little hard to ID a simplex node when your done , that’s a human thing

To be safe call or email the fcc or your local ARRL rep that knows about repeaters ( non attended transmitter ) to be safe and keep it off .520 !!

Listen listen and listen some more before you pick a freq to put the simplex node on

Nothing worse then put it on a Friday night rag chew freq , because you where away a Friday night or forgot to listen , and you put up the node ....... 3 weeks of a radio on and on freq , or in scan mode with a couple 5 freq , as one gets used delete it from the scan list

Asking forgiveness is not better here ,

Good luck and enjoy


Richard Szajkowski VA3RZS,VA3ZJ,VE3BTE

On Apr 27, 2020, at 1:50 PM, Albert Febraro <w6aax@hotmail.com> wrote:

That’s what I thought.
Thanks,
Al
On Apr 27, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Dave Schultheis <dave6592@accesscom.com> wrote:

Al AAX wrote:


Should my simplex node be sending an ID over the air even though the node is usually idle? If so how can I enable this in the software?

Your node need only identify every ten minutes when it is transmitting, with one final ID at the end of a series of transmissions.

There is no need for it to identify when it is idle.

--

Dave Schultheis
WB6KHP San Jose
Re: Simplex node ID

Jim MacKenzie
 

Ten minutes in the US; in other countries, the time can vary (e.g. Canada, 30 minutes).

73
Jim VE5EV

-----Original Message-----
From: IRLP@irlp.groups.io [mailto:IRLP@irlp.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Schultheis
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 11:45 AM
To: IRLP@irlp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [IRLP] Simplex node ID

Your node need only identify every ten minutes when it is transmitting, with one final ID at the end of a series of transmissions.
Re: Simplex node ID

Albert Febraro <w6aax@...>
 

That’s what I thought.
Thanks,
Al

On Apr 27, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Dave Schultheis <dave6592@accesscom.com> wrote:

Al AAX wrote:


Should my simplex node be sending an ID over the air even though the node is usually idle? If so how can I enable this in the software?

Your node need only identify every ten minutes when it is transmitting, with one final ID at the end of a series of transmissions.

There is no need for it to identify when it is idle.

--

Dave Schultheis
WB6KHP San Jose
Re: Simplex node ID

Dave Schultheis
 

Al AAX wrote:


Should my simplex node be sending an ID over the air even though the node is usually idle? If so how can I enable this in the software?

Your node need only identify every ten minutes when it is transmitting, with one final ID at the end of a series of transmissions.

There is no need for it to identify when it is idle.

--

Dave Schultheis
WB6KHP San Jose
Re: Simplex node ID

Rick NK7I
 

Because you are bound by the FCC and they’ve treated an ID when the station is not actively used (a repeater on standby) as a beacon or a one way transmission, the answer is no. 

Besides it’s annoying to repeatedly hear (unless you specifically don’t use PL during an ID).

ID is a setting in the config. 

Rick NK7I

Smell Czech corruptions are inevitable

On Apr 27, 2020, at 10:37 AM, Albert Febraro <w6aax@...> wrote:

Should my simplex node be sending an ID over the air even though the node is usually idle? If so how can I enable this in the software?
73,
Al
W6AAX
stn3913

Simplex node ID

Albert Febraro <w6aax@...>
 

Should my simplex node be sending an ID over the air even though the node is usually idle? If so how can I enable this in the software?
73,
Al
W6AAX
stn3913
Re: Network disconnected script?

Kevin B
 

Just wanted to update that Dave WB8ODF and I emailed back and forth and he was nice enough to take the time to write a script for me to make this happen. It works great! I run a couple of his scripts and they are all great and very nice directions.

Thanks again Dave!

Kevin
VE6KEZ
Re: IRLP automated system announcements - Audio Levels?

Bill Hudson
 

Tim

If you can't upgrade or have the old software, put in a "pad" (pot) between the node and the radio and pad the overall audio (man talking in the box) down to a comfortable level, then run the slider for the user level up where you want it.

I realize this is a hardware fix and in most cases, it might be more appropriate to just upgrade the software.

In my case it's easy because I plug the node into a port on a controller, so I set the port level to the "man in the box" level, and then adjust the user's voice with the slider in the node software for where I want it.

CBS Bill
Bill Hudson
W6CBS

-----Original Message-----
From: IRLP@irlp.groups.io [mailto:IRLP@irlp.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Cameron - IRLP
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 11:46 AM
To: IRLP@irlp.groups.io
Subject: Re: [IRLP] IRLP automated system announcements - Audio Levels?

If the level of the audio announcements is significantly higher that the
node audio, you may have an old script on your node. Some of the old
scripts that mixed the "node number 1 2 3 4, link active" scripts have
been replaced. They used to be VERY overbearing.

There is no way to adjust just the audio of the announcements. I would
suggest that the nodes you are connecting to are sending weaker than
normal audio, and you have turned yours up too loud to compensate. When
adjusted right, the announcements should sound the same as the audio
coming in.

David Cameron

On 26/04/2020 3:27 a.m., Timothy Mc Bain - VK3MIT wrote:
Hello Group;

Is there a way to control the audio level (volume) for system
automated messages that is being fed to the repeater? i.e. Something
like a "Node 1234 CONNECTED" message - can the level of that be
reduced so that it still plays, but isn't too loud and overbearing?
Does one of the volume sliders in Alsamixer control that audio line,
separate from normal voice audio?

Thank you - Tim.
VK3MIT / 6363




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Re: Cannot access console

Albert Febraro <w6aax@...>
 

Admin, that was the key 
Thanks 
Al
W6AAX 


On Apr 26, 2020, at 11:37 AM, Albert Febraro <W6AAX@...> wrote:


Hello:
  I'm a new owner and having issue whereas I can not access the control console. I have tried different computers on my network. The required ports are forwarded and I can run PUTTY from my desktop. When I try to bring up the console I enter 192.168.0.xxx/control/index.php. I am then prompted (Authentication Required) for my user name and password. When I enter the login info  I get an Unauthorized message stating that the server cannot verify that I am authorized to access the document requested. Also tried different browsers. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Al
W6AAX
Node 3913 
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